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    Dunlop Road Smart 3 tires AKA tire thread #2372-106A

    Well Well Well
    I see these Dunlop Road Smart 3 Ads Claiming 12,000 + miles, Ha!
    What a load of you know what.
    I did a 420 mile Western Colorado loop Wed and when I got home the rear was worn past the tread layer into a lower layer and the front was worn to where the wear bars are flush.
    Mileage on this set?
    5600.
    These are not cheap tires.
    But they handled great , just not anywhere near the life I was looking for.
    signed
    Back to the tire machine.

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    My experience has convinced me that trying to predict tire life without considering the riding surface is about as useful as trying to calibrate the dB level of a pixie fart.

    There are folks who can and do get upwards of 10,000 miles on a tire set. I got about 5,000 miles on the Bridgestones on my FJR and had the Michelin PR4s on my RT down to the wear bars at 4,000 miles. Why? I ride almost exclusively on chip seal pavement. Chip seal is apparently about as tire friendly as a wood rasp or cheese grater. I'm sure I would get better tire life if I confined myself to droning up and down the smooth asphalt super-slab but where's the fun in that?

    The lovely country roads through the farm and wine country of western Oregon are all chip seal. I'd rather spend my time communing with the vineyards, forests, farms, horses, cows, pigs, sheep, goats, llamas, alpacas, deer (ulp!), and camels (!) on the back roads than with the SUVs, Peterbilts, and Freightliners on the interstate. If the result is that I have to buy more tires then so be it.

    I'm guessing that the experience of riding through western Colorado more than compensates for a lower tire life.

    Enjoy!
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    Quote Originally Posted by stooie View Post
    My experience has convinced me that trying to predict tire life without considering the riding surface is about as useful as trying to calibrate the dB level of a pixie fart.
    Well put. I had very good results with my Dunlop Roadsmart 3s - as I have with every other premium tire I've tried.

    The aconym YMMV was never more accurate.

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    I pumped up my RS 3's by +2 psi and the life has significantly increased.

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    Now you tell me...

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    Road Smart 3

    I put a set on before a 6k mile trip last year. I have over 10k on the rear and about 13k on the front. To be sure they are wore out. Still some tread left but badly squared off especially the rear. I am ordering another set because I like they way they handled the first half of their life.
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    Iíve never run Road Smarts on our bikes, but Iíve mounted a couple of sets for friends. They are undoubtedly the most difficult tires to mount that I have ever encountered. They are the seed of Satan.
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    Quote Originally Posted by akbeemer View Post
    Iíve never run Road Smarts on our bikes, but Iíve mounted a couple of sets for friends. They are undoubtedly the most difficult tires to mount that I have ever encountered. They are the seed of Satan.
    Are you using tire irons, a couple of flat blade screwdrivers or just your bare hands?

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    Quote Originally Posted by nickrides View Post
    Joe
    Now you tell me...
    After having a less-than-satisfying experience (mileage-wise) with my first set of Dunlops, I spoke with a rep at the Billings MOA Rally. Their first question was "What tire pressures were you running?". I admitted that, because I'm so smart, I ran about 4 pounds less than factory-recommended on the front and 4 pounds less on the rear. The rep said that it was important to run factory pressures. So I bought another set and whaddya know - she was right. I got about 30% more mileage out of the second set. Totally changed my opinion on the longevity of these tires.

    YMMV

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    FWIW
    The recommended pressure on my bike is 44 psi front/rear
    I ran them at 45-46 psi.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nickrides View Post
    FWIW
    The recommended pressure on my bike is 44 psi front/rear
    What bike do you have? I've not heard of recommended tire pressures that high on a BMW. Highest I know of is 42psi front and rear on the K1300GT/K1600GT.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nickrides View Post
    FWIW
    The recommended pressure on my bike is 44 psi front/rear
    I ran them at 45-46 psi.
    Nick
    What is the maximum cold pressure embossed on the tire sidewalls on your bike?
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    Quote Originally Posted by BC1100S View Post
    Are you using tire irons, a couple of flat blade screwdrivers or just your bare hands?
    No Mar tire changer and tire warmers...... and I was completely sober.
    Kevin Huddy
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    Quote Originally Posted by stooie View Post
    My experience has convinced me that trying to predict tire life without considering the riding surface is about as useful as trying to calibrate the dB level of a pixie fart.

    There are folks who can and do get upwards of 10,000 miles on a tire set. I got about 5,000 miles on the Bridgestones on my FJR and had the Michelin PR4s on my RT down to the wear bars at 4,000 miles. Why? I ride almost exclusively on chip seal pavement. Chip seal is apparently about as tire friendly as a wood rasp or cheese grater. I'm sure I would get better tire life if I confined myself to droning up and down the smooth asphalt super-slab but where's the fun in that?

    ^Couldnít agree more.
    Iíve run numerous high end tires on my RT & I always seem to get ~7/8K miles a set. The RS3 Iím running now have been a pleasant surprise. Stickey as the Pirelli Angels GT, same good feedback & quieter. Very smooth. Iím planning on a second set on this summer @ ~8K miles.
    And, Here in Pennslavania everything (B&C roads) is going over to chip seal. I hated it at first but there are two upsides to this:
    1) much better grip in the wet than shiny asphalt.
    2) chip sealed roads do not develop pot holes! With our wild temp swings thatís a big deal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stooie View Post
    My experience has convinced me that trying to predict tire life without considering the riding surface is about as useful as trying to calibrate the dB level of a pixie fart.
    I wrote a Benchwrenching column on this topic and have posted this on the Forum before but this thread is a perfect place to post it again. Voni's R1100RS came with Bridgetone BT54 tires from the factory. They worked well so we continued using them for the bike's first 250,000 miles or so. The average mileage for the tires was right at 8,500 miles per tire, front and rear, not counting any early take-offs due to a puncture.

    But for the rear tires she got as much as 14,200 miles on one tire and as little as 6,100 on another. Same rider, same bike, same brand and model tire. The variable was road type and weather. The high mileage tire was used riding to and from her job as a teacher in the fall and spring on smooth machine laid asphalt country roads. The low mileage tire was used riding mostly chip seal roads in New Mexico, Colorado, and Utah in the middle of the summer. Road surface and temperature were the two key variables.
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