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    I forgot to add this bit, if you weren't afraid before consider this: the virus can remain airborne for up to 3 hours, it can live on surfaces for up to 3 days!

    We're considering things like mail where we will be wearing gloves and leaving the mail outside for a few days.
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    This just in: people just returned from Florida and decided that going to a wake and a funeral before self isolation was a good idea. Who knows how many people they infected. Maybe the Lynch mobs will start popping up?
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    Quote Originally Posted by 36654 View Post
    In PA, one side of the political spectrum is trying to take the non-essential business shutdown to court as illegal. Proving stupid isn't limited to 20yo's in college
    I hope people write down and remember the plaintiff businesses pursuing this selfish folly. And never patronize them again. And while they are at it they should note which shysters took these cases and never use them again, ever for the rest of their lives. When the dust settles, so to speak, these lawyers should all be asking, "Would you like fries with that burger?"
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    Quote Originally Posted by skibum69 View Post
    This just in: people just returned from Florida and decided that going to a wake and a funeral before self isolation was a good idea. Who knows how many people they infected. Maybe the Lynch mobs will start popping up?

    ^^^^^not helpful^^^^^
    Seems like there is enough places on the web and social media trying to create hysteria.....dontcha think?
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    I called a good friend, millennial lady who works in the hospitality businesses - waitress sometimes, B&B management part time, etc. I wanted to know how things were going at Study Butte and Terlingua now that all the hotels, motels, RV parks, campgrounds, and B&Bs have been ordered to vacate. Indeed, even Big Bend National Park previously closed all their buildings except latrines, but have now closed all of the camping facilities too.

    But to get to the point she was laughing about the toilet paper situation. Her advice for if you run out: cut up those old T shirts or socks you don't wear anymore, or go take a shower.
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    Quote Originally Posted by akbeemer View Post
    You missed my point.
    I just added context on the challenge we face and what happened in the past. Yes, we survived the polio outbreaks, but that was a 40-yr process. Even the vaccine was 3-yrs after the outbreak of the early 50's.

    We're doing what we have to do, but it's going to take a while.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skibum69 View Post
    This just in: people just returned from Florida and decided that going to a wake and a funeral before self isolation was a good idea. Who knows how many people they infected. Maybe the Lynch mobs will start popping up?
    A lot of funerals services around here are being postponed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by grabcon View Post
    PGlaves, I understand your thoughts on the guarantee but we just spoke with them right before I wrote here and they have no intention of shutting down. I also heard the issues in Brewster county yesterday about closing everything. I am not going to hijack this thread but closing everything presents issue for those of us who are full time RVers.
    If we don't flatten the curve of Covid-19 infections by following the recommendations or in certain areas, mandates, to enforce social distancing then we are putting ourselves first and endangering others. These closures are a response to people ignoring the recommendations that health professionals know will help us. It's painful but pain and inconvenience now means saved lives in a matter of weeks. This isn't a hypothetical, all or part of 6 first world industrial countries with good modern medical care have recent history with trying to contain this pandemic and losing thousands of lives. The US is 12 weeks behind as it is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PGlaves View Post
    Her advice for if you run out: cut up those old T shirts or socks you don't wear anymore, or go take a shower.
    Paul,

    This is an excellent point which future Rally organizers should consider. That big latex logo on the front of the front or back of the rally T-shirt is going to make a really poor renewable TP substitute. Less latex, better TP potential. Lets do our part.

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    Beside wasting this crisis we should more intelligently be learning. Don't waste learning opportunity.

    When a bat biting a chicken brings down the entire world's economy there are some things that need be attended. One, wouldn't take much to monitor every passenger on every international flight. At the least comparing the cost to what we now face. Two, number crunchers, economists and epidemiologists at some point need to sit together and contemplate. Three, as we move forward, listening is key. Can't analyze anything, even the most insignificant problem without actively observing, listening, you know, what everybody knows, but refuses to do. Like when you and yer partner, yer significant other face problems. There are no dumb ideas.

    When yesterday I saw the under sixty crowd run into Wally mart before seven, we see number four. It was for the elderly to get a few things, before eight thirty, because, just because. At that point we see a damn panic, not a pandemic. There were some infirm older people, and they were being abused by this. IMHO. Just saying. There wasn't even a sign on the door much less an ID check. Go figure. Coffee time gang.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skibum69 View Post
    I forgot to add this bit, if you weren't afraid before consider this: the virus can remain airborne for up to 3 hours, it can live on surfaces for up to 3 days!

    We're considering things like mail where we will be wearing gloves and leaving the mail outside for a few days.
    The National Institute of Health has an article on their web site dated 3/17/2020 which says (I'm summarizing) that SARS-CoV-2 which causes COVID-19 is *detectable*

    - in aerosols for up to 3 hours
    - on copper up to 4 hours
    - on cardboard up to 24 hours, and
    - on plastic and stainless steel up to 2 or 3 days

    https://www.nih.gov/news-events/news...hours-surfaces
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    Everyone has had plenty of time to stock up on a couple weeks of food.
    Since the grocery stores will stay open our local news is asking to only buy a weeks worth of food at one time.
    We don't want the food aisles to look like the TP aisle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lee View Post
    Everyone has had plenty of time to stock up on a couple weeks of food.
    Since the grocery stores will stay open our local news is asking to only buy a weeks worth of food at one time.
    We don't want the food aisles to look like the TP aisle.
    Good advice, maybe, but with a factor to think about. I am 75 years old with COPD, but the concern applies to everybody. If I go to the grocery store every week instead of, for example, every two weeks I double my opportunity to come in contact with the virus. Where we live "normal" shopping would be to go to Alpine maybe every couple of weeks.

    As it now stands we don't intend to leave our property except for emergencies or truly essential purposes. And we could easily stay here for 6 or 8 weeks with no anticipated need to leave. When we run out of eggs, I'll just eat Spam for breakfast.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PGlaves View Post
    Good advice, maybe, but with a factor to think about. I am 75 years old with COPD, but the concern applies to everybody. If I go to the grocery store every week instead of, for example, every two weeks I double my opportunity to come in contact with the virus. Where we live "normal" shopping would be to go to Alpine maybe every couple of weeks.

    As it now stands we don't intend to leave our property except for emergencies or truly essential purposes. And we could easily stay here for 6 or 8 weeks with no anticipated need to leave. When we run out of eggs, I'll just eat Spam for breakfast.
    Fried Spam?? Damn, I love that stuff!
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    Quote Originally Posted by PGlaves View Post
    Good advice, maybe, but with a factor to think about. I am 75 years old with COPD, but the concern applies to everybody. If I go to the grocery store every week instead of, for example, every two weeks I double my opportunity to come in contact with the virus. Where we live "normal" shopping would be to go to Alpine maybe every couple of weeks.

    As it now stands we don't intend to leave our property except for emergencies or truly essential purposes. And we could easily stay here for 6 or 8 weeks with no anticipated need to leave. When we run out of eggs, I'll just eat Spam for breakfast.
    Yes I know with your health and location this does not apply to you.
    I'm talking about the average person that lives with a grocery store near by.

    Even in good conditions when someone has more than 100 to 150 mile round trip to the store it does not make sense to go every week.
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