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    Quote Originally Posted by PGlaves View Post
    Meaning? I understand the numbers but not what they mean for me in my house in a rural county with zero confirmed cases, but also zero tests. Am I as likely to die in a head-on going to the store as I am if the clerk sneezes in my face? Is this a lesser or greater risk as dying in Nagasaki in 1945?

    And when, other than Hurricane Katrina or 9/11 have we overwhelmed hospitals like we are doing now. Somehow the statistics fail to tell the truth here.
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    How I view it is.........it's the number of deaths in a period of time. In the case of Italy, they achieved the US per capita number of influenza/pneumonia deaths in a period of 36~37 days. So, that's a 10X increase in demand on health care resources for that period. Do you think your "local" hospital could handle a 10X work load for a one to month period? I know my local hospital can barely handle the ER case load during a warm fall or spring weekend if the students are in-town.
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    Paul,

    How I view it is.........it's the number of deaths in period of time. In the case of Italy, they achieved the US per capita number of influenza/pneumonia deaths in a period of 36~37 days. So, that's a 10X increase in demand on health care resources for that period. Do you think your "local" hospital could handle a 10X work load for a one to month period? I know my local hospital can barely handle the ER case load during a warm fall or spring weekend if the students are in-town.
    We live in a three county area with a largely rural population of just over 18,000 people. There is one local hospital, 25 beds, 2 respirators. My local hospital couldn't handle a 10x workload for 15 minutes, let alone a month. This is the reality in rural Texas at least where the public disinvestment in health care has been extreme. It is the state with the largest percentage of people without health insurance, that rejected Medicaid expansion, where going to the emergency room can be a way of life because private clinics will turn people away due to no money and by state law the subsidized clinics only need to serve people whose income lies below 20% of the Federal poverty line. Covid 19 will be grim when it hits here. I don't leave the property unless I have to. But I expect to see friends and neighbors die. It ain't the flu!
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    And all the urbanites fleeing to their country houses will add even more to the rural overload.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PGlaves View Post
    We live in a three county area with a largely rural population of just over 18,000 people. There is one local hospital, 25 beds, 2 respirators. My local hospital couldn't handle a 10x workload for 15 minutes, let alone a month. This is the reality in rural Texas at least where the public disinvestment in health care has been extreme. It is the state with the largest percentage of people without health insurance, that rejected Medicaid expansion, where going to the emergency room can be a way of life because private clinics will turn people away due to no money and by state law the subsidized clinics only need to serve people whose income lies below 20% of the Federal poverty line. Covid 19 will be grim when it hits here. I don't leave the property unless I have to. But I expect to see friends and neighbors die. It ain't the flu!
    Paul,

    I hope your friends and neighbors make it thru, but the rest of your statement is a reality for a lot of places. I'm concerned when the virus hits the assisted care facilities in the rural areas. I doubt the underpaid staff in those places will be able to handle the load.
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    One care home in Ontario has had a lot of people die and over half the residents are sick. It's pretty horrific in that small town.
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    Living in a rural area has some real advantages: During a deadly pandemic not so much. But the same can be said for living in a big City. It doesn't look pretty in New York or New Orleans. And, here come Chicago and Detroit and others. I am not sure there are very many places where the medical infrastructure won't be overwhelmed unless we can really "flatten the curve." But that tactic prolongs the pandemic.
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    Flatten the curve will prolong the pandemic but it gives the medical world a chance to cope with its existing resources.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 83014 View Post
    Flatten the curve will prolong the pandemic but it gives the medical world a chance to cope with its existing resources.

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    Crisis on the installment plan. I certainly hope everyone can and does hang in there with the social distancing and staying at home long enough to make a significant difference.
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    Any good Spam recipes?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Omega Man View Post
    Any good Spam recipes?
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    Last trip to Costco they had an eight-pack of Spam and I couldn't help myself. Had fried Spam cubes and scrambled eggs the other morning and it was great!
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    Quote Originally Posted by GREGFEELER View Post
    Last trip to Costco they had an eight-pack of Spam and I couldn't help myself. Had fried Spam cubes and scrambled eggs the other morning and it was great!
    When I was 14 years old I bought a 49cc Sears & Roebuck moped, built by Puch in Austria. My good friend Buzz and I would ride that thing the 23.3 miles, two-up, to Turtle River State Park to camp. The moped had wire baskets for panniers and a little pillow on a flat rack to be a passenger seat. Buzz had to hold our two sleeping bags because there was no other place to put them. It would go 30 mph even two-up so in about an hour we could be at the park, counting time for a smoke break while the engine cooled down.

    We enjoyed a bit more freedom then than a lot of kids do now, which is really kind of sad.

    In the late 1950s there were no campgrounds in the park but camping was allowed. There were some favored spots with pre-used fire rings, and sites by the creek (Turtle River) though. We used a metal cup from a military canteen and a small metal rack ands cans of Sterno to cook. Mostly what we ate we ate cold. Our staples were cans of PorkNBeans, Kipper Snacks, Sardines, Tuna, and Spam.

    If one were to peek at my emergency supply of food today they would find, among other things PorkNBeans, Kipper Snacks, Sardines, Tuna, and Spam. Spam comes in several flavors now too you know.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PGlaves View Post
    We enjoyed a bit more freedom then than a lot of kids do now, which is really kind of sad.
    So true.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Omega Man View Post
    Any good Spam recipes?
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    Grind it in a meat grinder, I use the old school clamp to the counter kind. Add pickles and mayonnaise and you have ham salad. And don't forget to have a can of Brown bread handy with those beans.
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    We had/have sweet Lebanon Bologna in PA, https://www.seltzerslebanon.com/, so SPAM wasn't all that special to me. Of course, if you wanted something with more tang.....there was souse (headcheese).

    But, who could beat the oily, salty goodness of Kippered Snacks? Every paycheck Friday (every two weeks), the trip to the A&P included a few cans. That was Dad's paycheck celebration.

    What I can't stand from those days, is Slim Jims or the gas station/convenience store Beef Jerky. The mere smell of that stuff can make me wretch. A stomach full of that stuff and no water for several hours leaves a lasting impression on your body and mind.
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