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    Quote Originally Posted by Omega Man View Post
    The news has taught us that everything mustbe presented in a sensationalized fashion based on what will keep you viewing/reading even if it's "not exactly accurate". And of course.......there is the "Monday Morning Quarterbacking" that has become so prevalent in todays day to day life.
    Oh how I long for the days of Edward R Murrow!
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    Quote Originally Posted by GREGFEELER View Post
    Thanks for the clarification. "Inaccurate reporting due to lack of testing" sounds a lot different to me than "...the US was not reporting the true number of fatalities." which sounds conspiratorial.
    One often sees what one is looking for.
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    I live in South Dakota, relatively isolated and with a rather low population with two "urban centers," the rest really distributed.
    Our only real problem is I-90 running across the state, a path for infection to travel for certain.

    We had 58 cases as of yesterday at noon, the cases have been doubling every three days.

    The state has tested less than .25% of our population of 900.000, we have the capacity to test about 1,000 persons per day.

    The Governor seems to have a pretty good handle on what she is doing though we don't have enough testing capability to Test and isolate.

    In yesterday's news conference the Governor expressed her opinion that this won't be over by Easter, a statement I agree with.

    Looking out my living room window, the Black Hills are beautiful, it is nearly 50 degrees, I might get the bike put back together this afternoon so I can go for a sanity ride by myself tomorrow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by akbeemer View Post
    Some perspective. There are approximately 7 billion people on planet earth. This morning the Fox News website says 615,000 people are infected (0.009%). Assuming a 100% error in reporting and there are really 1,230,000 infected (0.018%). 29,000 have died (0.0004%). Assuming a 100% error in reporting 58,000 have died (0.0008%).

    There are approximately 330 million people in the USA. This morning the Fox News website says 105,000 people are infected (0.03%). Assuming a 100% error in reporting and there are really 210,000 infected (0.06%). 1,711 have died (0.0005%). Assuming a 100% error in reporting 3,422 have died (0.001%).

    I think I have the math correct.
    In 35-days, 0.0151% of Italy's population has died of COVID-19 (as of yesterday, 27 MAR 2020)). The US Influenza and pneumonia deaths for all of 2017 (365-days) was 0.0171% of the US population. Considering the current trends, Italy will surpass the 0.0171% of total population rate in a day or two. So, the same proportional number of deaths within ~1/10 the period of time. It not just the number of deaths, it's the time period and the amount of beds and equipment that are available per capita. For reference, Italy has ~17% more hospital beds per capita than the US.

    According to the CDC, for the year 2017, the top causes of death are

    Cause....................Per Capita Deaths
    1) Heart Disease...........0.199%
    2) Cancer....................0.184%
    3) Accidents................0.052%
    4) Chronic Respiratory....0.048%
    5) Stroke.....................0.045%
    6) Alzheimers................0.037%
    7) Diabetes..................0.026%
    8) Influenza/pneumonia..0.017%
    9) Kidney Disease..........0.016%
    10 Suicide....................0.014%

    https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvsr/n...r68_06-508.pdf
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    Quote Originally Posted by PGlaves View Post
    Oh how I long for the days of Edward R Murrow!
    But, think of the monster(s) he had to slay. Yes, we need Murrow, but I doubt many would listen...
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    Quote Originally Posted by 36654 View Post
    But, think of the monster(s) he had to slay. Yes, we need Murrow, but I doubt many would listen...
    Most US residents wouldn't even recognize the name.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PGlaves View Post
    Most US residents wouldn't even recognize the name.
    People in their mid-50's and older, have no excuse. Young folks being unaware, I can understand, but regret.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PGlaves View Post
    Oh how I long for the days of Edward R Murrow!
    At age 60, I grew up with Walter Cronkite.

    And that's the way it is...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Subman View Post
    At age 60, I grew up with Walter Cronkite.

    And that's the way it is...
    Cronkite came up thru the CBS ranks under Murrow. Murrow tried to recruit him as the Moscow bureau head during WW2, but Cronkite stayed with UP and reported from the western European front. Cronkite joined Murrow's team at CBS in 1950.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PGlaves View Post
    Most US residents wouldn't even recognize the name.
    I remember the name but do not remember watching as he stopped broadcasting when I was six.
    I grew up watching Cronkite on a tiny black and white.
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