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    NAV VI Discontinued

    I went on the Garmin web page and found out they have discontinued the BMW Nav VI.

    I contacted Garmin Customer Service and they didn't have information on a replacement unit.

    I'm not going to spend $950 at the BMW dealer on a new NAV VI that is discontinued.

    Anyone have information from the dealer side ?
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    I have never seen the BMW Navigator (VI or other) on the Garmin website. Did it show as discontinued there, or just not appear? It is still on the BMW webpage. https://www.bmwmotorcycles.com/en/ac...igator-vi.html.

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    Take a look at the new Zumo XT "Navigator" and the next BMW NAV will probably follow on. The Nav VI doesn't have the split screen option which I hope the next iteration does, very useful for controlling phone, weather, etc., while still observing the route

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    Switch

    Maybe Garmin wasn’t annoying enough so planning on switching to Tom Tom

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    Quote Originally Posted by 179212 View Post
    Maybe Garmin wasn’t annoying enough so planning on switching to TomTom
    I ran a TomTom for about 100,000 miles on my FJR, I found it much more intuitive and easier-to-use than the BMW Nav units.
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    NAV VI Discontinued

    I went on the Garmin web page and found out they have discontinued the BMW Nav VI.

    I contacted Garmin Customer Service and they didn't have information on a replacement unit.

    I'm not going to spend $950 at the BMW dealer on a new NAV VI that I'd discontinued.

    Anyone have information from the dealer side ?
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    Here is a piece which is a bit stale (5 days old) but shows a neat video with BMW and Honda bikes (I think), and explains the Garmin push on the Zumo XT Model.

    See the piece here: https://finance.yahoo.com/news/garmi...120000884.html
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    I've been following the XT since it was introduced last week.

    Looks like not just a great unit, but also a good (comparative) price.
    4.3" is $400
    5.5" is $500

    If we're lucky, the Navigator version will be reduced in price as well and available soon.

    On the weekend, Garmin was showing the XT being available in the US now and in Canada is supposed to get it, they say, in 2-3 weeks.
    I would think, that how long it will take for the BMW Navigator VII to be released is a BMW issue. Hopefully, they will be quick about it.

    I just helped a fellow BMW rider (Airheads) get and setup a 396LM. Naturally, it is a little disconcerting to see the XT available one week later at a very competitive price, but such is life with technology.
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    Hopefully those who have had major issues with the VI can get a good deal on the VII when it comes out...
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    I'd say the best we could hope for is some version of the Zumo XT unit. Good looking unit at a good price with many good features. Maybe Garmin and BMW will get it right.

    I don't see Apple Car Play as viable, because so many riders go to places where cell service is non-existent.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ExGMan View Post
    I don't see Apple Car Play as viable, because so many riders go to places where cell service is non-existent.
    Some of us live in places where cell service is non-existent. Twenty five miles south or 50 miles north I can get a signal.
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    Car Play and Android Auto don’t depend upon cell service unless you are using streaming services or making/receiving a call. Both can be used to play music directly from the phone, just as is currently done with Garmin and Nav devices, and there is no real difference in service availability than what you currently have with a phone connected to a Garmin or Nav unit. At home, Paul isn’t going to get calls, weather or traffic info piped between phone, gps and headset regardless of the phone, gps, or app used.

    The issue is in providing proven workable apps and connectivity, and the Nav VI/TFT screen/Phone connectivity on the new bikes is horribly unreliable and incomplete. For example, if you’re playing music stored on the phone you cannot, with the Nav VI, control start/stop/pause from the Nav VI screen. Piped through the TFT, it’s much more controllable but still doesn’t utilize Siri or other functionality on the phone. Car mfgrs went through the same issues in rolling out info screens and eventually realized the smarter path was to license proven technology like Car Play, technology that works consistently across car brands, rather than trying to reinvent the wheel. Hence Car Play and Android Auto appearing across the car market, and not just in high-end models.

    Honda is tuned in on this. The new Goldwing has Car Play, and adds Homelink to boot, so no more fumbling for a place to mount a door opener or a pocket in which to stash it. https://powersports.honda.com/goldwing/2020/index.html As TFT screens continue to drop in price it will make less and less sense to continue devoting resources to add-ons like free-standing gps units. And the widespread acceptance of CP/AA make harder to justify devoting resources to try and develop an in-house alternative for use on TFT screens.

    Anyway, back to the Zumo XT and thoughts of Nav VII. The only way it makes sense for BMW to front development and production is if the exterior case and mount match the Nav V/VI units, so there’s a backward-compatible upgrade available for current Nav owners. Otherwise, it’s likely too small a market to make the unit affordable. And, BMW would be competing against it’s own TFT screens with in-house Navigation and Phone apps. Pricing on the Nav units was always around $200 more than a comparable Garmin-branded unit and I’d expect to see that continue.

    I’d rather see them focus on improving and more widely deploying the TFT—including licensing CP and moving the entire TFT dash up to where the Nav units currently mount, but moved closer to the rider. One screen, apps one is familiar with and that work the same regardless of vehicle, and mounted where it’s easy to check something without distracting the view of road and traffic.

    Just my $0.02.

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    Navigator VII ?

    Has either Garmin or BMW so far mentioned anything about a successor to the Nav VI? Anything to support the notion that BMW's about to introduce a Garmin-made Nav VII, other than past history?
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    Yup, clearly discontinued. Wonder what BMW's will be using as a replacement on the new bikes?
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