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    Not my cup of tea, but I hope it sells well. In fact, I hope it sells so well that BMW has to open additional U.S. dealerships just to process the additional business.

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    It really doesn't matter whether or not existing BMW owners like it, or don't like it. The question is, will the normal cruiser buyer like it?

    This bike is different than all others in the BMW lineup, it doesn't lend itself well to add-on model development like the R9T either in layout or in engine & performance characteristics. Certainly the R18 is an important "look what we can do" design and development exercise, and BMW has produced such exercises in the past. They will sell a number during the first year or two to current BMW owners who want to taste the cruiser experience. But as a production model expected to carry it's weight in competition with H-D, Indian, etc? I am curious as to how many other non-V-twin big-bore cruisers, besides the K16, have been successful in the cruiser marketplace. I still expect the R18 will walk the same sort of path as the R1200C-- some movie placements to build identity and interest, an initial surge of sales to current customers and a relatively small array of conquest sales, then quickly tapering off to discontinuance of the model. But, as long as the ones they do sell are profitable and helping to subsidize other bikes or motorrad products, I'm all for it.

    I can't wait to see the eruption in the forum when BMW introduces a trike model...

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    Cruiser? Sorry, I can’t like it either!
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    Quote Originally Posted by GTRider View Post
    ..... I still expect the R18 will walk the same sort of path as the R1200C-- some movie placements to build identity and interest, an initial surge of sales to current customers and a relatively small array of conquest sales, then quickly tapering off to discontinuance of the model.
    I beg to differ.

    At the risk of offending some, the R1200C was one of the ugliest motorcycles ever produced - by any manufacturer. BMW learned their lesson and the R18/2 is, in my most humble opinion, a very attractive cruiser bike. I predict steady and impressive sales numbers. Even, perhaps, to those current BMW owners who also own Harley cruisers.

    Bring on the trikes!

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    Quote Originally Posted by PGlaves View Post
    But, but, but, if I don't like it nobody should like it. It isn't fair if somebody likes something I don't like. It just isn't fair!
    It would be nice to see this kind of in the Muffler Thread
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    It would have been interesting if we had a forum back in 1980 to see what everyone thought about BMW selling a off-road bike.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Omega Man View Post
    It would be nice to see this kind of in the Muffler Thread
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    Indeed, as long as what a person likes and advises others to do is lawful. Which is pretty well absent in the muffler thread.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PGlaves View Post
    Indeed, as long as what a person likes and advises others to do is lawful. Which is pretty well absent in the muffler thread.
    We could expand this to driving over the speed limit......probably just as pointless.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Omega Man View Post
    We could expand this to driving over the speed limit......probably just as pointless.
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    I am sitting here grinning as a Cheshire cat because I had already said to myself that I could hardly wait until somebody mentioned speeding.

    Along with those other, "go ahead, you won't get caught" things like putting waste oil in the dumpster, pouring stale gasoline down the storm sewer or in the ditch, and of course letting the refrigerant out of your old refrigerator.
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    Quote Originally Posted by easy View Post
    Not my cup of tea, but I hope it sells well. In fact, I hope it sells so well that BMW has to open additional U.S. dealerships just to process the additional business.

    E.
    I agree with this comment above.

    I would like to take ride an this beast. But buy one? No. The windshield is stuck in one place and the bike wil likely be too heavy. Besides I am an RT guy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PGlaves View Post
    I am sitting here grinning as a Cheshire cat because I had already said to myself that I could hardly wait until somebody mentioned speeding.
    I had to wait a bit for things to develop
    It's (IMO) just a part of the human condition to want rules, regulations and black helicopters to pounce on conditions that annoy them........unless it effects them. It's like road rage.....if one is the type to start honking or give the single finger wave in traffic, chances are the driver that committed this (perceived) offense doesn't even know it. The reaction is, most of the time, seen as the first thing that went on.
    Riders with loud pipes- with courtesy, you can remind them to go easy on the throttle when near an "event". Same with your neighbor that bought a riding lawn mower that, due to horsepower speckmanship, runs basically a straight pipe for an exhaust. Ask them, with courtesy, if they could mow a bit later than 07:00 on Sunday morning.
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    I like the look of retro cruisers. I'd probably spring for a Moto Guzzi 1400 Eldo. I also like the sound of a V-Twin. Just sayin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Omega Man View Post
    I had to wait a bit for things to develop
    It's (IMO) just a part of the human condition to want rules, regulations and black helicopters to pounce on conditions that annoy them........unless it effects them.
    "Why is everyone who drives slower than you a moron and everyone who drives faster than you a maniac?"

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    Quote Originally Posted by barryg View Post
    I'd probably spring for a Moto Guzzi 1400 Eldo. I also like the sound of a V-Twin. Just sayin.
    V-twin and at least 3 models of heavy cruisers *with forward-mounted pegs*. If they had a robust dealer network... how do you say “potato-potato” in Italian?

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    [QUOTE=GTRider;1194934]V-twin and at least 3 models of heavy cruisers *with forward-mounted pegs*. If they had a robust dealer network... how do you say “potato-potato” in Italian?

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