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    Quote Originally Posted by gunnert View Post
    You'd "think" there would be a map somewhere showing roads that are paved...Duane
    Just start a thread on ADVrider querying the ones you still dont have information on, and youll get lots of hits.

    Also, you might want to get Steve Farsons book, Motorcycling Colorado.
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    I like Butler Maps

    Quote Originally Posted by gunnert View Post
    Thanks for the help. Always a PIA planning a ride on unfamiliar roads. You'd "think" there would be a map somewhere showing roads that are paved...

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    Looks like it's time to get a new map.
    Mine is the 2nd edition.
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    I heard back from another friend and he said the road over Los Pinos Pass would not be good on a large road bike.
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    Lee, not interested in an opinion on what someone else 'thinks' is a suitable road for a large bike. Did he say it was dirt/gravel or paved?

    BTW, I have the Butler map, it doesn't show the County roads.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gunnert View Post
    Lee, not interested in an opinion on what someone else 'thinks' is a suitable road for a large bike. Did he say it was dirt/gravel or paved?

    BTW, I have the Butler map, it doesn't show the County roads.

    Duane
    He said it was gravel not suitable for a large road bike.
    I'm just try to help here.
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    Hit the Google search for Los Pinos Pass YouTube and there is a ride on it. I can’t link from iPhone at moment
    After watching I remembered my ride.
    It really depends on weather as the road conditions rapidly deteriorate between grading maintenance and would have not taken my RT the time I rode on my GSA... some very sketchy sections that trip. Your ride your choice
    Another plug for Steve Farsons book as well as page 196-197 has a good description of this 43 mile trek. His advice “A light and easily maneuverable street bike would probably be okay without causing any “ What am I doing here?” moments.”

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    From the YouTube video it doesn't seem too bad. I have ridden a Harley bagger over worse! As long as it was dry I would ride it on an RT. but then my "gravel" tolerance is pretty high.
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    As mentioned it depends on weather, I have ridden a K12S on worse in CO... but it wasn’t by design as I was
    following my bro in law who knew a “shortcut”...anything but.
    My recall was worst part of Pinos was right before top of pass and was churned up and rocky from runoff after all the quad runners did their thing... there are tours/ rentals out of Lake City and a few large groups dusting it up depending on timing. The video I watched looked like a good day
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    Lee, thanks for the update. Your first response did not say it was gravel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gunnert View Post
    Lee, thanks for the update. Your first response did not say it was gravel.

    Duane
    Sorry about the confusion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gunnert View Post
    After the Great Falls Rally 5 of us are heading to Colorado. Will be spending 4 nights in Pagosa Springs. Interested in day ride routes start/ending Pagosa Springs. I found one route that takes you up 149 and just south of Lake City takes you east/northeast along County Roads 50/52, etc. Anyone ridden this area or these roads? Trying to confirm they are paved, e.g. we're all on K1600.. One of the days we'll be doing the train ride out of Chama, NM. Any other suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Please include details...

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    There's a lot a great suggestions here. We've ridden this area a lot every single year. My only suggestion would be to move on from Pagosa Springs. If you intend to end every night in Pagosa, you'll miss some opportunities because it will take a long time to get back there.

    For example, ride out to Cortez, head north towards north towards Dove Creek, then go right on 141 and keep going until you hit Gateway. You will not be disappointed with this route, but it's a long, long ways back to Pagosa Springs. From Gateway you can head to Grand Junction for lunch. After lunch there's a great (but slow) ride through Colorado National Monument, then west on I-70 for a few miles to Loma. Then head north on 139 to Rangely. You'll go over super gnarly Douglas Pass. Great turns, a bit of a rough road (it is asphalt though) with no guardrails and a great view. From Rangely head east to Meeker for an overnight stay.

    I would do two nights in Pagosa, do the loop out to Durango, 550 (Million Dollar Highway - easily one of the best road in Colorado and that's saying a lot!) head east on highway 50 to 149. Head south to Lake City, over slumgullen pass, stop in Creede for food (stop a Miner's Restarurant - excellent breakfast Pasty!) and then around the corner over Wolf Creek pass back to Pagosa Springs.

    Oh, so many options! You'll love them all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gunnert View Post
    Lake City over to 114.

    Duane
    There's really only one way on a big street bike and that's to go north from Lake City to Blue Mountain Reservoir, east past Gunnison to 114. I've ridden this ride literally dozens of times. Really great north of the Cochetopa pass, then it's very arid, mostly flat. If you are hungry when you get to Saguache, stop at the 4th Street Bakery for breakfast or lunch. It's amazing! They bake all their own breads and such... really good!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lee View Post
    Two guys say gravel. Another guy is going to check his Gazetteer after work to be sure what road I asked about.
    When I google Los Pinos Pass the picture shows a dirt bike on gravel.
    Yes, this is a gravel road.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jeffkraft View Post
    east past Gunnison to 114. I've ridden this ride literally dozens of times. Really great north of the Cochetopa pass, then it's very arid, mostly flat. If you are hungry when you get to Saguache, stop at the 4th Street Bakery for breakfast or lunch. It's amazing! They bake all their own breads and such... really good!
    That's a fun road. I called it North Pass but looking at my pictures I see Cochetopa is the correct name.
    Thanks for the tip on 4th Street, we'll check it out this summer.
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