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Thread: New bike: F900XR or S1000XR -- best for luggage & vibes?

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    Quote Originally Posted by drneo66 View Post

    Many of our tool kits just need to include a computer or phone, along with traditional wrenches, to keep working on our bikes.
    Thirty Four years ago I bought a 1986 K75T. The conventional wisdom then was that with the electronic ignition, fuel injection and water cooling on that bike the days of the home wrench were over. I rode that bike for 370,000 miles over a period of 19 years and never once after the 500 mile service did I need to take it to a dealer for service. The only maintenance on the electronic ignition was to change spark plugs. The only maintenance on the fuel injection system was to change the fuel filter a few times and to use a dose of Techron fuel system cleaner every 12,000 miles or so. I changed the coolant a few times too.

    Lots of brake pads, a few shocks, some fork seals, spline lubes, etc constituted the maintenance on that bike that a home wrench supposedly couldn't handle.

    The same holds true for the most part today. A good diagnostic tool - GS911 - and a good repair manual and a home wrench can still do most of what is needed. Maybe not all, but certainly most of it. It does become a bit less muscular and a bit more cerebral maybe. But most folks can use a smart phone so they ought to be able to use an electronic diagnostic tool. We have been using OBDII readers fro cars since the 1970s or '80s.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AKsuited View Post
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    He does compare the 900 with the 1000.

    Harry
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    I noticed several things.
    It has a cable clutch.
    It has Road 5 GT tires instead of the standard Road 5.
    It has gold forks and non ESA. In the past gold forks meant the bike had ESA.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bside View Post
    I'm contemplating a new bike. I currently ride a 2011 F800R which I overall really enjoy, BUT, is severely lacking in touring capability (as per design ). I'd like to be able to go on some longer trips, even though the vast majority of my riding is either commuting, or day riding (i.e., not requiring camping gear etc). But for example I'm planning a 3k mile trip including the MOA Rally in June, and strapping everything all over the F800 awkwardly doesn't seem like it's going to work, nor be comfortable with the tiny windscreen and vibey highway performance (see more below).

    So, I'm contemplating one of the new XR bikes. I primarily want more touring and long-distance riding comfort, with room for some gear. I know I can get matching luggage for either the F900XR or the S1000XR, and the S1000XR's luggage looks nicer in the one picture on the BMW site (and I'm guessing is slightly more spacious; plus the "hooks" are visible under the pillion seat in the bike pictures, which make it seem like it might be easy to remove the luggage when not in use for example for daily commuting). I know there's almost none of the 900s in the US yet (and maybe no 1000s either?) -- they seem to be single units trickling into dealers now, but if someone has insight on the luggage, or overall thoughts of them vs. the older F800, I'd love to hear them.

    Also, as I mentioned, the "vibes" are another reason I'm contemplating a 1000 over the 900. My 800 is pretty vibey in the exact freeway range (~4500rpm), which can get pretty annoying on long rides. I'm assuming the 900 is a bit more balanced out (given that it'll be 9 years later, and at least one engine/balancer generation newer than mine), but I presume (?) the I4 of the s1000 is even smoother (plus maybe sounds cooler, and of course is quite a bit more powerful ). Anyone with good insight into the feel of these two engines?

    Another option would be an older used S1000XR, but I like some of the features (keyless, new dashboard) on the 2020 so I'm leaning towards new. Plus I've never bought a brand-new moto so seems exciting But if it's a huge enough bargain I could be convinced if folks think the 1000 is far superior to the 900, and that model year doesn't make a huge difference otherwise.

    Any advice appreciated, thanks!
    The S1000XR is going to have more bells and whistles, and definitely more power (160hp vs 99hp). You will have cruise control, heated grips, gear shift assist, hill start control, electronic suspension, more ride modes, ABS Pro and more. You might be able to get a few of these on the 900XR but most are budget priced. the 19' S1000XR's right now are offering a $2000 incentive, and you get an additional $750 off with MOA. Seems like a no-brainer to me!

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    Another review of the F900XR

    https://www.bennetts.co.uk/bikesocia...iew-price-spec

    List of equipment and options.

    BMW ABS Pro (cornering ABS)

    BMW HSC Pro (hill start), Dynamic DTC (traction control), MSR (motor slip regulation for hard down-changes)

    Gear shift assist

    TFT with connectivity

    Riding Modes Pro Rain, Road, Dynamic, Dynamic Pro

    LED Headlights

    Cornering lights

    LED Indicators (probably not in the US)

    LED Dynamic Brake Light (probably not in the US)

    Adjustable Windscreen

    Preparation of GPS Device

    Cruise Control

    Heated Grips
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    Recently I have read and watched a couple F900 reviews and they mentioned the ESA is only on the rear shock.
    One thing I like about ESA on the front is there's very little front dive like the telelever and duolever front suspensions.
    Lee
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