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Pannier weight

Off hand, anyone know the weight of BMW's latest aluminum pannier vs a Vario pannier?


From parts fiche info from a 800GS and GSA. Max had no 850 listed and are they different now?

Vario R- 13.69 lbs
L- 12.46

Aluminum R- 13.47
L- 12.37

Rack weight for aluminum cases is around 13 lbs total and the varios about 7lbs
 
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