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    It will be interesting to see the HP and Torgue figures.
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    Quote Originally Posted by junkjohn View Post
    It looks like the difference is the seat, fairing, and shiny bits.
    Significant frame changes, too. The rear suspension has the appearance of a hard tail, but isn't. Looks like an exposed driveshaft as well.

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    Looks almost like a small radiator at the lowest part of the engine in the front. Seems like a vulnerable place for that (if it is a radiator). Having those big cylinders just in front of the rider's shins might be a bit warm.
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    Having those big cylinders just in front of the rider's shins might be a bit warm.
    That's what guys on 800s said about the 1150s.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ExGMan View Post
    Looks almost like a small radiator at the lowest part of the engine in the front. Seems like a vulnerable place for that (if it is a radiator).
    Ducati has positioned them there since 1991. I've never had, nor have I heard of, any issues.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BC1100S View Post
    Significant frame changes, too. The rear suspension has the appearance of a hard tail, but isn't. Looks like an exposed driveshaft as well.
    To me the frame and driveshaft look the same on both models.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ExGMan View Post
    Looks almost like a small radiator at the lowest part of the engine in the front. .
    Looks like a oil cooler. Just noticed the R18 doesn't have one.
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    Here's more description and another two photos (these from of the left side of the bike). Credit goes to Cycle World for these:Untitled.png

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    "The R18 perhaps takes another step closer toward production in the latest R18/2. Note that the last R18 concept was carbureted, but this latest rendition takes on modern features such as fuel injection and LED lighting. We are also able to see that BMW has now added an airbox and side covers—components that were not seen on the previous cruiser concept. Additionally, this R18/2 has shifted gears to a much more American cruiser style than the nostalgic R5-like styling of the last model. Catch a glimpse of the R18/2 in action in the video below."
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    YouTube Video of R18/2

    This 4-minute video provided by BerlinBiker: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zl7IYa_lWI8

    The narrator mentions oil cooling, so Lee, that may be the piece low in the front.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lee View Post
    To me the frame and driveshaft look the same on both models.
    Sorry. Brain fart on this end. I was thinking one thing and typing another.

    Watched the video. The voice-over described a "sporty looking engine". Must have been reading a marketing department release. He also made reference to "cast iron wheels". Now THAT'S retro!

    The seating position seems to be very neutral and this bike could be the answer to a question Mr. Glaves asked a couple of weeks ago. To paraphrase: "If they really wanted to, could BMW design and build a real cruiser?" I think we have our answer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BC1100S View Post

    Watched the video. The voice-over described a "sporty looking engine". Must be a marketing department release. He also made reference to "cast iron wheels". Now THAT'S retro!
    I think the narrator is probably a native speaker of German, and thus perhaps something was lost in translation. I heard "cast-iron wheels" and said: "Huh?" You're right: retro is the word!
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    I guess in reading things, the "/2" part of the name is not so much an homage to the 1960s /2 models but rather indicating it is the second version after the initial concept R18. Maybe the valve covers take on the basic look of the 1960s /2 bikes. BMW did this over the years...more recently the /5 to /7 badged bikes, then dropping the signage after 1978.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 20774 View Post
    I guess in reading things, the "/2" part of the name is not so much an homage to the 1960s /2 models but rather indicating it is the second version after the initial concept R18.
    Bet you're right.
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    The guy I talked to at the AIM Expo said BMW made a handful of engines and gave (or loaned) them to various studios to design a bike around. BMW are showing them around and listening to the feedback, nothing's been set in stone yet.

    Preserving the clean looks of a big air-cooled carbureted engine while making it street legal and Euro-5 compliant will be a challenge.

    Edit: I just saw the video from EICMA, and the head of BMW Motorrad, Markus Schramm, said it's "officially" the R18 now (everyone's been calling it that, so no news there) and something (unspecified) will happen in the 2nd half of next year.
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    The bike will supposedly start under 20K, be in hand 2 quarter of 2020 as a 2021 model (probably September), have a ton of customizable options from the factory and dealers are taking deposits. I can’t wait for it and have a deposit on one.

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