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    Why do we pick on BMW seats?

    For the years I have been on this forum, and for all the years I have been on other m/c forums, one of the most common complaints I read is about how uncomfortable BMW seats are. Several other brands seem also to collect similar complaints, but BMW seems the worst.

    Is that issue really near-universal (all riders)? Or is my impression skewed by only a few riders who complain often? I really would like to hear some thoughts from this forum.

    My personal experience (20 years experience and all the lower 48 several times) is that I have never changed a seat nor felt particularly uncomfortable on a seat--except for the very first trip on a new bike. Once my butt gets used to the new seat it never is an issue. I find BMW seats to be about as comfortable as anything out there, except maybe touring Harleys, which are really exceptional seats.
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    For me itís because I own a BMW
    The Sargent with an Airhawk is barely tolerable.
    My TW-200 is no bargain either.
    I have thought of a Russell Day Long butt Iím too far away for a ride in.
    Itís most likely mostly my butt.....or lack thereof.
    Those big HDís do look comfy.
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    Royce you are evidently blessed with the extremely rare and desirable preferrous-polymorphous butt. (Please do not take the ĒdesirableĒ bit the wrong way)
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    All butts are not the same! I don't care what brand it is.

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    Seat threads are almost as much fun as tire threads, but more fun than oil threads. But, I'll play. I have only had two aftermarket seats. One was only because I needed a solo seat on my K75 modified for long distance rally riding. Bill Mayer, Sr. cut down that pan and built the seat for me for the 1999 Iron Butt Rally. I had Rick Mayer build a seat for my R1150R after the stock seat wore out at just over 100,000 miles. That was cheaper than buying a replacement from BMW. My other 14 BMWs had or have stock seats.

    In her 1,100,000 miles on 16 BMWs Voni has had only one aftermarket seat and that was because her R1100RSL had a Sargeant seat on it when she bought the bike. She actually likes the stock seat on Big Red, her other R1100RS better.

    We have spent the past two summers traveling about on our G310GS bikes which have the original OEM seats.
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    Maybe BMW seats fit my personal FD just right, but the only seat issue I ever had was on my 2005 K12LT. That seat was just completely useless.
    I had Rick Mayer make me one and that was money well spent. All my other bikes had good to great seats, well enough to do several 1K mile days in any of them..YMMV
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    Thanks for some discussion. Perhaps I do have a rare butt that does not require coddling, but I tend to believe not. Actually, like most men of a certain age, I have almost no butt to speak of. As a matter of fact, my wife calls me Mr. No-Butt.

    I have test-ridden many bikes over the years that I felt had uncomfortable seats (the original Ducati Multistradas, for instance; what a torture device.) but, guess what? I did not buy any of those bikes. If a bike is not reasonably comfortable from the get-go, I move to a different brand or model. Perhaps my selection process is different than most, eh? I have never bought a bike, or car for that matter, based on "passion" or "falling in love" with the machine. My decision is practical/logical: if the machine does not "fit" me the first time I ride it, than I am not interested.

    My only two "bad" experiences with motorcycle seats were one-offs. I once rode a Honda Shadow 750 from Orlando to Kansas City for a friend. He had bought the bike on e-bay and I was in Orlando on business. I turned in my return flight ticket and took delivery of his "new" purchase and rode it home to him. The experience gave me a sore butt for several days, but only because I was not used to the seat and the ride was a tad long (1,000 miles or so) for a test ride. I rode the bike several times after that and found the seat comfortable because my butt was used to it. The second experience was on my brand-new Kawasaki Nomad when I headed out on a cross-country trip the day after I bought the thing. Mistake. After the first half-day, I stopped at a bike shop and bought a Beadrider seat cover and all was great thereafter. After that first trip, I took the Beadrider off and rode the bike for three or four years on the OEM seat with no problems.
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    I rode my ‘82 R65 LS to Tennessee in June, a bike not designed for long distance hauling that I’d never ridden more than a couple of 3 hours. Starting my trip I did 4 x 900 km days in a row. How do you think that seat was?

    But on my KTM’s I now have 2 Renazco seats for Mt 525, one suede and one vinyl. On my 640 Adventure I have a Renazco vinyl. I have done 15 hour days on that seat and yes it still hurts but I’d be hard pressed to try on the stocker.

    On any of those machines I wear bicycle shor5s under whatever pants I’m wearing and that makes a huge difference.

    I haven’t got much time on my new to me R1100 S so can’t really comment but a couple of hours on it felt fine so at this time no thoughts of going aftermarket for that bike.
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    I know quite a few farmers/ranchers and none of them is riding on a steel seat these days. They are in a comfy seat fit for a luxury RV in an air conditioned and heated cab listening to music while they do their work. Their's is a life of long hours in tough weather but sitting on steel is not among their problems these days.
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    Quote Originally Posted by akbeemer View Post
    I know quite a few farmers/ranchers and none of them is riding on a steel seat these days. They are in a comfy seat fit for a luxury RV in an air conditioned and heated cab listening to music while they do their work. Their's is a life of long hours in tough weather but sitting on steel is not among their problems these days.
    You missed the past tense reference where I said "have sat."
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    Russell Day Long Seats may be missing a big market oppurtunity. RDL for tractors and farmers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by barryg View Post
    Russell Day Long Seats may be missing a big market oppurtunity. RDL for tractors and farmers.
    Many a comment has been made over the years that RDL seats look like tractor seats.
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    Tractor riders/drivers know best.

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