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    Thoughts on R1200RS vs R1250RT

    Hello all. This is my first post, but I'm hoping to benefit from the collective knowledge and saddle time on making a decision to replace my '16 RS with the '19 RT.

    First, I've always had to be canted a bit forward in the saddle to keep pressure off of my tailbone. If I have pressure on my tailbone, my day is over after about 2 hours. The RS does that nicely, but now I'm starting to get fatigue in my wrists -- which I guess is a new era in my aging process. So the question is if any of you have had the same issue and if a saddle has cured that particular problem on an RT?

    Second, I've ridden BMWs before with the Telelever and always felt like the front end was disconnected from the road. Nice when bombing down the highway, but really got under my skin in the corners when pushing hard. I'd love to hear comments from those of you who've either ridden both types (telelever and telescopic) or have recently converted and have gotten used to it.

    Finally, I'd love to just trade the bike in, but it seems like dealers are always trying to get a bit too much out of my wallet so will likely sell it. I'm not sure how to price the bike as there aren't many RS' sold in our area. Any advice on pricing would be helpful.

    Thanks much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rna4266 View Post
    Hello all. This is my first post, but I'm hoping to benefit from the collective knowledge and saddle time on making a decision to replace my '16 RS with the '19 RT.

    First, I've always had to be canted a bit forward in the saddle to keep pressure off of my tailbone. If I have pressure on my tailbone, my day is over after about 2 hours. The RS does that nicely, but now I'm starting to get fatigue in my wrists -- which I guess is a new era in my aging process. So the question is if any of you have had the same issue and if a saddle has cured that particular problem on an RT?.
    The wethead/shiftcam RTs will have to canted forward a mere 2 degrees, probably won't help much with your rear, but you have the opportunity to relax your arms and your wrists should be all set. In terms of seats, Sargent has a cutout in the center (in the foam only, the cover is one piece) that may provide what you're seeking in terms of tailbone relief. The Sargent seat definitely does a better job of supporting your entire butt and reduces hot spots. Mine too a thousand miles or so to break in, but now I've ridden it as many as 375 miles in a day and could have gone farther.

    Sargent offers a 30 day money back guarantee, so you can test it out on your own bike to know whether or not it takes care of your issue.
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    Regarding telelever, I’ve exclusively ridden telelever bikes since the late 90s (R1100RS, K1200RS, K1300S, R1200GSA, R1250GSA). Last year, I rented an F800 (non-telelever) on a Wheels of Morocco ride and did not like how the front “dived” on hard braking.


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    Agree

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    Quote Originally Posted by rna4266 View Post
    Hello all. This is my first post, but I'm hoping to benefit from the collective knowledge and saddle time on making a decision to replace my '16 RS with the '19 RT.

    First, I've always had to be canted a bit forward in the saddle to keep pressure off of my tailbone. If I have pressure on my tailbone, my day is over after about 2 hours. The RS does that nicely, but now I'm starting to get fatigue in my wrists -- which I guess is a new era in my aging process. So the question is if any of you have had the same issue and if a saddle has cured that particular problem on an RT?

    Second, I've ridden BMWs before with the Telelever and always felt like the front end was disconnected from the road. Nice when bombing down the highway, but really got under my skin in the corners when pushing hard. I'd love to hear comments from those of you who've either ridden both types (telelever and telescopic) or have recently converted and have gotten used to it.

    Finally, I'd love to just trade the bike in, but it seems like dealers are always trying to get a bit too much out of my wallet so will likely sell it. I'm not sure how to price the bike as there aren't many RS' sold in our area. Any advice on pricing would be helpful.

    Thanks much.
    First off been riding beemers since 1995 rs's, s's, gs's, rt.s etc etc never had a cant forward or backward problem even riding 700-800 mile days. Just position yourself on the bike that makes you comfortable. Second I just don't believe this front end disconnect stuff and I have probably 300,000 miles on telelever front ends. I never had a problem with that front end when pushing hard in a corner. Third KBB or NADA have used bike guides so just research it. Fourth if your getting fatigue in your wrists your putting too much pressure on your bars. Aging is interesting reality being almost 68 very soon. Hope this helps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rna4266 View Post
    ...I've ridden BMWs before with the Telelever and always felt like the front end was disconnected from the road. Nice when bombing down the highway, but really got under my skin in the corners when pushing hard. I'd love to hear comments from those of you who've either ridden both types (telelever and telescopic) or have recently converted and have gotten used to it....
    I've ridden Tele's for a number of years and when I got an R1200RS this spring, it took me a few rides to get used to the telescopic forks. When I rode my R1200ST recently, I really noticed how the Tele front end caused it to brake flat. The whole bike felt different, actually. But I like having two sport tourers that are quite different.

    As for feel, the Tele drives some riders nuts, but it doesn't seem to bother most. Some, such as BMW tuner Dr. Curve (where did he go?), think it makes a bike handle better.

    It's very subjective. Some owners are hypersensitive to the feel of their machines, whether bikes, cars or airplanes. It's quite remarkable.

    And welcome to the Forum.
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    Thanks for all the replies. I spent some time on an RT this weekend and have decided that I can live with the "lack of feel" from the telelever front-end. There is definitely a difference in feel, but as I get older I'm a lot less prone to push the bike hard in the corners. I loved the lack of brake dive, though the RS dive isn't nearly as bad as some bikes I've had. The real takeaway was how much warmer I was at 75 mph and 45 Deg. F. behind a big windscreen! RT here I come.

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    The tele's are plenty quick in the corners, and you'll get used to it.
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