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    Stop Sale Transmission 2016 2018 all K1600

    Not so good news.

    It appears there is a issue with the shift fork on the K1600.

    11/2016 to 9/ 2019 models effected.

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    Welcome to the forum!
    I guess the good news is that BMW will cover it.
    There have been a few of these for the bikes and a few for BMW’s high end cars......the cover it.
    Again, welcome.
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    Bmw not issuing a ride stop

    According to CycleWorks of Barrington this is not a safety or significant mechanical issue - BMW will not be issuing a Ride Stop order. More to follow.....

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    Shift fork

    I was looking at buying a K1600B, and then was contacted by a dealership stating the “stop sale” due to shift fork issues..... maybe I’ll keep my 2016 R1200RT and be happy with its having no issues....

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    Stop Sell

    Yeah, it’s a bummer. I just purchased the 2019 K1600B with the Monolith special paint 😁, but now have to wait until the issue is resolved before I can take her home 😫.

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    Timeline for stop sale?

    Quote Originally Posted by dave23913 View Post
    Yeah, it’s a bummer. I just purchased the 2019 K1600B with the Monolith special paint 😁, but now have to wait until the issue is resolved before I can take her home 😫.
    Did they give you any timeline???

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    Stop sell

    Nope... they admitted that they haven’t heard anything. They weren’t even sure what the problem was, although we now know it’s the shift fork. So I don’t have a clue how long this wait will be. Very frustrating 😡.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dave23913 View Post
    Nope... they admitted that they haven’t heard anything. They weren’t even sure what the problem was, although we now know it’s the shift fork. So I don’t have a clue how long this wait will be. Very frustrating 😡.
    I can’t imagine your frustration...... I would be so itching to ride that bike! I guess I’ll pass the upcoming Winter months thinking about a K1600B...

    I hope that you get your bike soon!

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    English translation

    Thank you for the link! Now I need to work my Dutch to English translations

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    Use Google Chrome

    It will translate for you.....but here is the PDF in English just to be safe.BMW Recall K1600.pdf

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    Critical Driving Situation

    Quote Originally Posted by millerj0545 View Post
    It will translate for you.....but here is the PDF in English just to be safe.BMW Recall K1600.pdf
    Thank you for the PDF..... I like to avoid those “critical driving situations,” especially at high speeds...

    More importantly, can I get a “Dredger” and not a “Bagger” at my dealership?

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    This has now become a recall in the US. The recall number is 19V692. Here is what's available on the NHTSA website.

    "Summary

    BMW of North America, LLC (BMW) is recalling certain 2017-2020 K 1600 GT and 2018-2020 K 1600 GTL and K 1600 B motorcycles. Certain transmission parts may not have been produced to the appropriate hardness level. This could affect the function of the transmission, possibly causing double engagement of two gears and/or the damage of transmission parts.

    Remedy

    BMW will notify owners, and dealers will replace the shift forks, the selector sleeve of 5th/6th gear and the gear wheel of 6th gear, free of charge. The recall is expected to begin October 17, 2019. Owners may contact BMW customer service at 1-800-525-7417."
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    That sounds like it's going to be an expensive repair. Won't be done overnight either...
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    Quote Originally Posted by ExGMan View Post
    That sounds like it's going to be an expensive repair. Won't be done overnight either...
    It might not be terrible. The K1600 uses a "cassette" transmission design, so the gears and shafts can be slid out of the bike without splitting the crankcase or tearing the bike in two - unlike the R bikes.
    K16trans.jpg

    Still, lots of little bits to be removed in preparation:
    Preparatory work
    Removing gearbox cover
    Removing left bottom side panel
    Removing left radiator cowl
    Removing left side panel
    Removing left stowage compartment
    Removing right bottom side panel
    Removing right radiator cowl
    Remove the right side panel
    Removing carrier for right bottom side panel
    Removing right drop-protection pad
    Removing left catalytic-converter shield
    Disengaging clamp on left silencer
    Removing left silencer
    Removing right crankcase cover
    Removing clutch
    Removing number-plate carrier
    Remove the rear wheel
    Removing rear brake caliper
    Disengaging shift lever
    Removing left footrest plate
    Disengaging gearbox potentiometer
    Removing clutch slave cylinder
    Remove the pushrod
    Disengaging mounted parts from gearbox
    Disengaging actuator rod from rear ride height sensor
    Releasing Paralever link at rear
    Lowering bevel gears
    Disengaging universal shaft

    Core activity
    Removing gearbox


    I suppose the techs have (or will find) some shortcuts in that list. The RepROM shows 38 Flat Rate Units to prep, remove, strip and re-assemble the gearbox, which includes dis-assembly of every shaft, bearing and gear. Google tells me a FRU can be anywhere from 5 to 10 minutes - it has changed over the years and is different for service and warranty work. I'll guess it will be a 3-5 hour job after the tech has done one or two.

    The time to simply remove and replace the gearbox on my '06 RT is 54 FRUs, without actually opening it up.
    Last edited by lkraus; 10-21-2019 at 06:55 PM.
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