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    Quote Originally Posted by Lee View Post
    Those are heavy also at 575 pounds.
    I would be temped by the F900R at 463 pounds.
    Yes The F900R/XR are an interesting change. Will have to look at them carefully in the spring, or when they show up at dealers. While the weight has come down some, they are still quite close to the R1200RS/r1250RS. Not sure the difference is worth the likely compromises in suspension, etc.

    The KTM 790 is another even lighter alternative with a bit better power (at the expense of a peaky engine curve??)

    I see that KTM has just announce a 890 Duke R (a naked street fighter) with a weight of 366lbs and 119HP. This bike has outstanding suspensions specs. If KTM produced a GT version will a slightly detuned engine for a broad power/torque (vs peak race version) I would guess in still could come in at 425lbs or so. This is a could be a substantial attraction to me. KTM/Works Performance suspensions are among the very best.

    So many choices of good bikes

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    [QUOTE=Lee;1185226]Those are heavy also at 575 pounds.
    I would be temped by the F900R at 463 pounds.[ive been a miner for a heart of gold]

    If I could stand going back to a dirty old chain drive...

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    Quote Originally Posted by lupinblue View Post

    If I could stand going back to a dirty old chain drive...
    And a chinese Lorcim engine?

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    Quote Originally Posted by vark View Post
    And a chinese Lorcim engine?
    The Chinese will make products to any corporate specification. The last BMW product I specifically looked at- made in China, was that real nice riding suit......canít remember the name of the suit.....Rallye 3?
    It was made as nice as anything I have seen.
    When a nice German anvil is close to $3,000.....thinking a $79.00 HF anvil is going to be the same is rather wishful thinking.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vark View Post
    And a chinese Lorcim engine?
    Why would that be a hardship? Thus far the China sourced engine has presented as a much smoother and powerful, more meaningful power curve than the prior out sourced Rotax 800. BMW had their G650GS engine produced in China beginning in 2009, I don't recollect any unusual problems with it. Not sure I understand the concern over Chinese sourced products from the many other foreign sources used by BMW and nearly every other vehicle manufacture in Europe, Asia or USA.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lupinblue View Post
    ...If I could stand going back to a dirty old chain drive...
    I have an aversion to dirty old chains myself having been spoiled by the elegant, simple, clean, zero-maintenance, power-transfer efficient, quiet & lightweight BELT DRIVE on my former F800GT. Ask a hundred F800GT/ST owners what role the belt drive played in their purchase decision and I think you will find it's a significant factor:

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    When I looked at the working 3D model of the inner workings of a BMW shaft drive as on my wethead at a local shop I was struck by just how clunky, heavy, complex etc the thing is by comparison. My dreamcycle is the BMW T1000GT which of course will have belt drive!

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    I agree totally!

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    [QUOTE=lupinblue;1185307]
    Quote Originally Posted by Lee View Post
    I would be temped by the F900R at 463 pounds.[ive been a miner for a heart of gold]

    If I could stand going back to a dirty old chain drive...
    The S1000R is lighter than that!!
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    [QUOTE=crna59;1185378]
    Quote Originally Posted by lupinblue View Post

    The S1000R is lighter than that!!
    I like bikes that will accept OEM panniers.
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    [QUOTE=Lee;1185413]
    Quote Originally Posted by crna59 View Post

    I like bikes that will accept OEM panniers.
    Panniers at 160mph.....I will have to think about that.
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    [QUOTE=Omega Man;1185414]
    Quote Originally Posted by Lee View Post

    Panniers at 160mph.....I will have to think about that.
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    No, I meant I like the idea of OEM panniers available on the F900R or F900XR.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lee View Post

    Panniers at 160mph.....I will have to think about that.
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    160 mph ..... I will have to think about that.
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    I have been to 110 mph that is FAST enough! Once on one of the first goldwing, 1973 or 74. The second time on a 04 R1150R, 2006.

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    I ran my '05 FJR to an indicated 140mph once...

    ...ONCE!

    It was fun but I've since learned that I am not, in fact, immortal and thus I adopted safer riding practices. 8-D
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    Took the 07 1200GT to 135mph once, several more times at 115-120 [ rather tame ]. The GT at 135 was only using 75-77% to red line and had lots of throttle left. It was listed at 150mph top end, and it had every bit of that left in throttle in 2019 with 23K on the motor. I was chasing a Ducati at the time who'd gone by me like I was standing still doing 75mph.

    The 2012 r1200GS has seen 110 fully loaded with 95#'s of gear. IIRC, that was around 2K less than red line.
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