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    I thought you bought the Xchallenge for the ultra comfy seat Ian?
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    Quote Originally Posted by BC1100S View Post
    And which manufacturer makes one of these? My sport bike weighs 418 lb fueled and there is no way a touring bike is going to get close to that number.
    Maybe But the KTM Adventure 790 is 419 lbs dry about 450 with a full tank. Swap some the heavy adventure trinkets for a good windscreen and It seems to me you are there for a good 95hp mid size tourer.

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    I'm liking the Tiger 800, at least on paper. 439 lb dry (claimed); the 850 GS is comparable in power but much taller, the 750 GS is comparable dimensionally but way down in power; both the 750 and 850 are heavier.

    The one review I read of the KTM 790 suggests it responds best to being ridden hard - I'm probably too relaxed to get full benefit from what it can do..
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    I'll be 79 in a month or so and I'm 5'6" and shrinking. can't pickup my RT so I bought a bike jack and carry it as I ride by myself a lot. The picture is when I was testing it to see if it would work for me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Omega Man View Post
    I thought you bought the Xchallenge for the ultra comfy seat Ian?
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    Quote Originally Posted by wbrownell9 View Post
    I'm liking the Tiger 800, at least on paper. 439 lb dry (claimed); the 850 GS is comparable in power but much taller, the 750 GS is comparable dimensionally but way down in power; both the 750 and 850 are heavier..
    FWIW The F750GS may be the better bike ...it might have better HP and torque curves than the F850 to around 80mph. This WAS the case when I had the F650 twin vs the F700 at the time.
    It had a milder cam that produced better torque. The hot cam of the F700 delivered more HP/torque only on the top end (over 7000 rpm). The F650 had BETTER torque and HP than that F700 thru 5000 rpm (85mph). Also the cast wheels are lighter, stiffer (better in the twisties) the C of G was lower ( easier to pick up, again better in the twisties).

    If you don't spend much time twisting your engine above 7000, what the hot cam buying you? Marketing hype?

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    [QUOTE=wbrownell9;1179687]I'm liking the Tiger 800, at least on paper. 439 lb dry (claimed); the 850 GS is comparable in power but much taller, the 750 GS is comparable dimensionally but way down in power; both the 750 and 850 are heavier.

    The one review I read of the KTM 790 suggests it responds best to being ridden hard - I'm probably too relaxed to get full benefit from what it can do..[/QUOT E]

    Have you ridden a F750GS? Unless you're riding two up all the time I wouldn't say it is under powered. 30 years ago I went everywhere on a K75S (75 HP, 50 foot pounds)...it weighted more, had less HP, no cruise control, ESA or many other current equipment. Same for the R100RS (60 HP) in '93. Think there's a slight difference between 750/850 when it comes to getting down a smooth surface road...real power wise. I find the 750 power to be more than adequate...unless I'm "forced" to race a 1400cc something, unless it's a HD. Of course I don't race anyone however, do go to post office, gas station (not often at 57 MPG) or cross town. Few times a year will do a 700 mile round trip to "back home". If my body and desire was younger I believe another 5,000 mile trip out West would be doable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bobw View Post
    I'll be 79 in a month or so and I'm 5'6" and shrinking. can't pickup my RT so I bought a bike jack and carry it as I ride by myself a lot. The picture is when I was testing it to see if it would work for me.
    what jack is that? got a link?
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    Quote Originally Posted by bobw View Post
    I'll be 79 in a month or so and I'm 5'6" and shrinking. can't pickup my RT so I bought a bike jack and carry it as I ride by myself a lot. The picture is when I was testing it to see if it would work for me.
    Have you had a chance to perform your test? If it receives your recommendation I think I'll order one.
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    The pictures are of me testing it. I'm happy with it and feel better knowing I have it in my trunk.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bobw View Post
    The pictures are of me testing it. I'm happy with it and feel better knowing I have it in my trunk.
    And riding at 79 gives me hope
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    I've just come to realize that I do not want a 500lbs motorcycle. There are plenty bikes out there that have all the creature comforts (and have plenty of power) and are under 500lbs......
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    Quote Originally Posted by Omega Man View Post
    And riding at 79 gives me hope
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    And I read about people in there 80's riding and that gives me hope...

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    Quote Originally Posted by crna59 View Post
    I've just come to realize that I do not want a 500lbs motorcycle. There are plenty bikes out there that have all the creature comforts (and have plenty of power) and are under 500lbs......
    Which one's are you thinking about here. I'm interested.
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