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    Quote Originally Posted by stooie View Post
    Your FD is very,very clean!
    WOW ... thought that was a photo of mine for a minute until I saw he slight rust on the rotor.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kioolt View Post
    FYI

    I've made a list of the tools required to remove the wheels on a R1200RTWC. My 2018 RT will be my first bike that does not have a functional tool kit so I put this list together so I could at least remove the wheels if needed.


    Front wheel
    1. T30 torx bit --- To remove ABS sensor
    2. T45 torx bit --- To remove axle pinch bolts
    3. 13mm deep socket --- To remove brake caliper --- Deep socket not needed for front but can used for front and rear if deep
    4. 17mm standard socket --- To remove bolt on left side of shaft


    Rear wheel
    1. T25 torx bit --- To remove muffler guard
    2. T40 torx bit --- To remove rear bolt on muffler
    3. T50 torx bit --- To remove lug bolts
    4. 13mm deep socket --- To loosen muffler clamp -- Deep socket needed for rear, standard socket will work for front.


    Both wheels
    1. 3/8" ratchet
    2. 3/8" X 4" to 6" extension


    I'm going to put together the above set and keep it on the bike at all times. My biggest problem while traveling is usually tires.
    Nice list, I would add a front wheel removal hex tool to that. It makes it a lot easier to loosen and torque the shaft. That or a 19 mm hex.

    front wheel removal hex tool.jpg
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    Quote Originally Posted by stooie View Post
    I wish BMW would have picked one or the other and used them throughout. .
    Same here.
    One that surprised me was the clutch reservoir cover uses Torx but the front brake reservoir cover uses Torx Plus.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lee View Post
    Same here.
    One that surprised me was the clutch reservoir cover uses Torx but the front brake reservoir cover uses Torx Plus.

    The mind boggles.

    I'd never hear of Torx Plus before this posting. Went out and took a look at Heinrich von Goosengo and sure enough; Torx Plus on the brake reservoir.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stooie View Post
    The mind boggles.

    I'd never hear of Torx Plus before this posting. Went out and took a look at Heinrich von Goosengo and sure enough; Torx Plus on the brake reservoir.
    No kidding!

    Are they used anywhere else? Hope not as I don't need more tools!
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    Quote Originally Posted by gsinnc View Post
    No kidding!

    Are they used anywhere else? Hope not as I don't need more tools!
    I have not spotted another Torx Plus fastener.
    The TP 20 bit is the only Torx Plus bit I own.
    Because the torque value is so low a regular Torx bit would probably work but I like using the correct tool.

    I noticed the different fastener when I was on a long boring road 😁
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lee View Post
    I have not spotted another Torx Plus fastener.
    The TP 20 bit is the only Torx Plus bit I own.
    Because the torque value is so low a regular Torx bit would probably work but I like using the correct tool.

    I noticed the different fastener when I was on a long boring road 😁
    Funny. Do you think they did it for security, seeing as it's the main brake reservoir on the bike?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jbinaz View Post
    Funny. Do you think they did it for security, seeing as it's the main brake reservoir on the bike?
    I don't think so because a regular Torx bit will work, it's just a little loose.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lee View Post
    Same here.
    One that surprised me was the clutch reservoir cover uses Torx but the front brake reservoir cover uses Torx Plus.
    You learn something new every day around here. Just had to go out and buy a tp20 today on Amazon. Will probably forget to use it, or won't be able to find it next time I flush the brakes though. Might just add a big label to it and stick it in my tool roll.
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    Quote Originally Posted by littlebriar View Post
    . Might just add a big label to it and stick it in my tool roll.
    Good idea.
    I just went out to the garage with a little pill zip lock, which I labeled.
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    A nice comparison of fastener drive systems
    https://www.acument.com/products/comparison/

    The Torx Plus decision was probably made by Magura - I'm guessing they are the supplier.
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    My 2 on what to carry

    Quote Originally Posted by gsinnc View Post
    I am working on putting together a tool kit for my new R1200GS and at the same time updating the tool kit for my '16 R1200RTW.
    I have a 2016 RT (traded for a 2012 1200GS a few years ago) but I still adhere to this thinking:

    As stated earlier in this thread, I consider wheel removal pretty important and carry those tools (especially for the rear wheel), along with a good puncture repair kit and a CyclePump. I also have a full set of Torx bits in small box. Combined with a few sockets and a wrench or two (14mm always handy for the mirrors that keep on loosening on the GS), screwdriver, leatherman, allens, tape, Loctite and Quicksteel that never gets used, a socket extension, etc. Pretty small bag o' tricks.

    Doing my own service has taught me what to carry. A while back, I carried more tools than a SnapOn truck, but now I know how to behave myself. I also have the JVB service DVD for my 2016 RT, and still have the video for my old GS. Each chapter from the DVD shows what tools are needed for each segment of a full service. I collected all of the tools I used, and got rid of the items I thought un-necessary - depending on the trip.

    For traveling in the US, I believe I only need the tools to get going to the next population center, and not carry a toolset for a major service everywhere I go.

    One thing I would recommend, is practicing removing/mounting wheels, just to see how much muscle is needed to get the job done. If there's room in the luggage and strength is at a premium, consider carrying a breaker bar. YMMV.

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