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    2016 GSA Value to shoot for?

    I have two GS bikes a 2002 and a 2011 but I have my heart set on a 2016 GSA as a target. ( Another GS in addition to my basically worthless LT, with what is probably a rear main seal leak. i want Low miles, farkled up by someone who had to have it, never used it and is ready to move on to something else my target price is 500 more than the dealer might pay.... I am willing to be patient and I want a specific color ( white).... Is 15000 the right number. I see lots of them at 16 or 17 and up but like a lot of bikes, that can't take a trade, it seems like privately they never sell for what the owner is asking. I would like to be in my bikes at wholesale when I buy them since they take a nose dive thereafter anyway. I rode one two years back and thought the difference between the 16 and 012 and before was remarkable.

    I drive about 10,000 miles a year.

    Thoughts?

    Paul

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    Looks like you pretty much answered your own question. If you are seeing them for $16K to $17K then that is what they are selling for. It really is a matter of what is "the best deal" for YOU. If you want a pristine low mile bike then you will probably be paying the higher end of the price spectrum. If however for YOU the best deal is all about the price then you can wait and watch and should be able to land one for the lower end of the price spectrum.

    When looking for a bike I usually do a national search on Cycle Trader and get the average price across all bikes being sold. But for me personally I prefer the most perfect and pristine bike out there and am willing to spend $500 or $1000 more to get the bike I want in the color I want.

    Here is what I found for 2016 R1200GSA. There are 47 bikes for sale with a high price of $19,999 and low of $11,999. The average price of all 47 is $16,276. That should provide a good idea of what you will be spending for a 2016 GSA. Then you can simply evaluate things like mileage, condition, location, assessors and color. But it certainly looks like about $16K is what you will be spending. Also, waiting until the fall or winter you should be able to save some $$

    Hope this helps! Good luck with your hunt.


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    Personally I would go for a 17 as that has the new transmission upgrades.

    My 17.5 GS is butter shifting compared to my 15 RT. It truly is night and day. If your going for a "new" one the 17 is what I would strive for.
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    thank you ed

    Quote Originally Posted by gsinnc View Post
    Looks like you pretty much answered your own question. If you are seeing them for $16K to $17K then that is what they are selling for. It really is a matter of what is "the best deal" for YOU. If you want a pristine low mile bike then you will probably be paying the higher end of the price spectrum. If however for YOU the best deal is all about the price then you can wait and watch and should be able to land one for the lower end of the price spectrum.

    When looking for a bike I usually do a national search on Cycle Trader and get the average price across all bikes being sold. But for me personally I prefer the most perfect and pristine bike out there and am willing to spend $500 or $1000 more to get the bike I want in the color I want.

    Here is what I found for 2016 R1200GSA. There are 47 bikes for sale with a high price of $19,999 and low of $11,999. The average price of all 47 is $16,276. That should provide a good idea of what you will be spending for a 2016 GSA. Then you can simply evaluate things like mileage, condition, location, assessors and color. But it certainly looks like about $16K is what you will be spending. Also, waiting until the fall or winter you should be able to save some $$

    Hope this helps! Good luck with your hunt.


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    thank you ed

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    I will try to drive a 17

    Quote Originally Posted by LFarling View Post
    Personally I would go for a 17 as that has the new transmission upgrades.

    My 17.5 GS is butter shifting compared to my 15 RT. It truly is night and day. If your going for a "new" one the 17 is what I would strive for.
    Never have driven one above a 16... wanted it for the keyless ignition...

    Paul
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    To make it more complicated, with the GS there is an early and a late 2017, early looks more like 2016 and doesn't have all the changes and upgrades. Need to do some research, but personally on my RT I wanted the newer tranny, it was worth the $1000 premium over a 2016..
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    Quote Originally Posted by jbinaz View Post
    To make it more complicated, with the GS there is an early and a late 2017, early looks more like 2016 and doesn't have all the changes and upgrades. Need to do some research, but personally on my RT I wanted the newer tranny, it was worth the $1000 premium over a 2016..
    Yes that is why I list my GS as a 17.5. It has 18 model year body work, and cornering ABS which I think was not available on a strait 17 model year.

    Again I would strive to get the 17+. The transmission is worth it to me. That said I could shift my 15 RT well. It just took too much thought process. I hated having to think about how I shift, i just wanted to be able to shift.

    The 17.5 does that.
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    Introduction of the 1250GS seems to have softened resale prices a bit on used GS bikes. Just a couple of weeks ago I was shopping; the dealer had a 2017 with under 2k miles and equipped with MV bags and some smaller farkles. That could have been snagged for $16.5k, the unmolested 2018 I acquired from a private owner also had only 2k miles and was less money than the 2017 at the dealership. And a perusal of used GS bikes on KSL.com shows numerous other late-model GS/ADV bikes at very reasonable prices, many of them I suspect are sellers anxious to jump into the latest and greatest new offering from BMW. So some shopping around may turn up similar opportunities in your area.

    And yes, the 2017 and up are noticeably nicer rides.

    Good luck,
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    Quote Originally Posted by GTRider View Post
    Introduction of the 1250GS seems to have softened resale prices a bit on used GS bikes. Just a couple of weeks ago I was shopping; the dealer had a 2017 with under 2k miles and equipped with MV bags and some smaller farkles. That could have been snagged for $16.5k, the unmolested 2018 I acquired from a private owner also had only 2k miles and was less money than the 2017 at the dealership. And a perusal of used GS bikes on KSL.com shows numerous other late-model GS/ADV bikes at very reasonable prices, many of them I suspect are sellers anxious to jump into the latest and greatest new offering from BMW. So some shopping around may turn up similar opportunities in your area.

    And yes, the 2017 and up are noticeably nicer rides.

    Good luck,
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    I would not say nicer, just nicer shifting
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    Quote Originally Posted by LFarling View Post
    I would not say nicer, just nicer shifting
    . They are both different, and in many ways nicer, than the R100GS I sold to get the 1200. And in its own way, my ‘84 G/S-PD is “nicer” than either one.

    I do like the TFT display for my antique eyes, tho...


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    Is there a way to tell the 2017 early bikes from 2017.5 visually? Or any other way?

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    Early 17’s look like 16’s.

    Late 17’s look like 18’s.

    Body work wise...


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    I currently own a 2016 RT and a 2018 GS and for me they are both great bikes and mechanically I don't notice a significant difference in running, shifting, etc. The big difference is the '18 GS has the TFT display and keyless. I would honestly have preferred the '18 not having either but it was a leftover and I really liked the bike and got a killer deal on it. On the GS bikes I think the keyless is simply a PIA ! No functional benefit. The TFT is really easy to read in all light and provides a ton of info but I hear very "fragile" to scratching and such.

    Find the bike you like at the price you are comfortable with and go for it. All the water heads are darn good bikes. I would make sure it has Shift Assist Pro.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sonnystile View Post
    Early 17’s look like 16’s.

    Late 17’s look like 18’s.

    Body work wise...


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    And the 17.5 GS have electronics that are not on a 17 GS. I think Cornering ABS.

    After a great time ownwning a15 RT except for it's shifting, I fell in love with a 17.5 Low GS. Was not my intention at all but I went with a friend who totaled his GS to pick a new one. Well I sat on this GS and all that changed in a heart beat. I took a butt kicking on the money end trading a 15 RT on a leftover 17 GS but I did get a 17.5 which does have the 18 body work, and a great deal on the bike and bags and crash bars.

    Just saying I would trade up for a 17 or better to get the better shifting bike and all the transmission upgrades that went into the bikes in the 17 model year.

    I hear people all the time say I don't feel a difference in shifting. Well either they had a special early year bike that shifted as it should with little to no clunk into first as my 17.5 does, or they got a dog of a 17 model year or better bike. The shifting was a very Night and Day difference between the 15 RT and the 17.5 GS.

    Do not get me wrong the 15 RT shifted OK but I had to concentrate and be conscious of the shifts. The 17.5 I just shift.

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    I can't say I ever met a manual transmission that I didn't like. Driven heavy old hulking trucks where double clutching was de rigueur, three on the column and four on the floor, older Honda motorcycles, loaner motorcycles and now a 2017 GSA. The engines all just respond to throttle requests but the transmissions are the soul of the machines. Damnit rpm's get in line and you, you clutch, honor your gears.

    Pro-shift on the GSA is something and removes none of my transmission fascination. When I get it right from second up and all the way back down, it is pure symphony and having the CPU whip the rpms into compliance suites me just fine. I see those precisely hobbed gears, bathed in golden oil, syncing their teeth into forward motion. Do I miss a gear whether fully manual or on Pro-shift? Yes but that's my fault being out of sync with the gearbox. Any clunk shifting into first to me is the transmission talking to the clutch, "I boss".

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