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    Quote Originally Posted by scqtt View Post
    There is a real problem with counterfeit helmets, but at the very first reply we turn it into bashing Harley Davidson riders and the people who are less than ATGATT.
    You're the first one to use the words Harley Davidson.
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    A reliable vendor , as mentioned, is my best assurance that I bought what I thought I bought! As a result, I can approach this thread -hopefully- as an interested party rather than a potential victim.

    No comment on the stupid comment...back on track!
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    Yea but.....I saw a BMW rider wearing a very expensive Shoei "flip face" helmet, crash violently. Both pins that are suppose to prevent the thing from flipping up when you don't want it to were sheared off. She had some broken bones & a few internal, non life threatening injuries and fortunately no head injury. However, after I witnessed that, I will never buy a flip up (no matter how expensive). As I stated, the crash was terrible and she could have easily ground her chin right off her face. And yes,this is off the original topic. Damn that MOA collective.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kioolt View Post
    You're the first one to use the words Harley Davidson.
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    "I can see the next pirate legend taking shape............"Why would I a take a risk on a helmet that could be counterfeit and kill me..........."


    Reading comprehension is important.


    This speculates that a Harley Davidson rider "pirate" would buy into a legend that it is safer to ride without a helmet rather than a counterfeit one.


    Very first reply...


    We wonder why the MOA numbers are shrinking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shortythorne View Post
    Yea but.....I saw a BMW rider wearing a very expensive Shoei "flip face" helmet, crash violently. Both pins that are suppose to prevent the thing from flipping up when you don't want it to were sheared off.

    Gail.....anecdotal evidence.... My Shoei Neo-tec saved my life in my crash and stayed intact. I gave you more anecdotal evidence....

    Here's a cool "BMW" helmet I'd love to have!!!!


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    Quote Originally Posted by scqtt View Post
    36654

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    "I can see the next pirate legend taking shape............"Why would I a take a risk on a helmet that could be counterfeit and kill me..........."


    Reading comprehension is important.


    This speculates that a Harley Davidson rider "pirate" would buy into a legend that it is safer to ride without a helmet rather than a counterfeit one.


    Very first reply...


    We wonder why the MOA numbers are shrinking.
    That is not reading comprehension. That is reading speculation. Perhaps the OP was commenting about Johnny Depp.



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    Quote Originally Posted by shortythorne View Post
    Yea but.....I saw a BMW rider wearing a very expensive Shoei "flip face" helmet, crash violently. Both pins that are suppose to prevent the thing from flipping up when you don't want it to were sheared off. She had some broken bones & a few internal, non life threatening injuries and fortunately no head injury. However, after I witnessed that, I will never buy a flip up (no matter how expensive). As I stated, the crash was terrible and she could have easily ground her chin right off her face. And yes,this is off the original topic. Damn that MOA collective.
    One could say the helmet did it's job. Even if the pins hadn't sheared, the helmet would have been unusable after the accident.
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    Quote Originally Posted by robsryder View Post
    The link below provides an interesting analysis of helmet price versus safety factor.

    https://blm.io/blog/motorcycle-helmet-safety-price/
    It is interesting, but what person or organization came up with the study?

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    It is interesting, but what person or organization came up with the study?
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    Within R, I make extensive use of the "Hadley-verse" of packages, especially ggplot2 and dplyr. Increasingly I'm also using packages from the Ramnath-verse, including Slidify, for generating HTML5 presentations from RMarkdown, and rCharts to build interactive JS graphics. The rOpenSci project has greased the wheels of several handy APIs, amongst other things. My R IDE of choice is RStudio.

    Due to the fact I've benefited so much from these free and open-source tools, I think it's only fair to make any and all analysis code public. Mine's on github if you make something cool based on anything there I'd be interested in hearing about it!"
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    I was wondering if the testing in the video if it was a legitimate test? Perhaps a "real" helmet would have failed the test too.

    As for the Shoei helmet the BMW rider was wearing that failed, it did a good job of keeping the rider's head in once piece. I wonder how many helmets that take a good blow in a wreck are cracked or obviously damaged afterwards.
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