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    Quote Originally Posted by MUNMI View Post
    We attempted to get cleaned up a bit with a shower as the lines were loooong in the morning. In our opinion, big fail. The one shower trailer was filthy, and another shower facility near the vendor hall that only had cold water. When we decided that getting a shower was not going to happen...
    I'm not a camper. I don't like sleeping on the ground. I like air conditioning and non-public showers and bathrooms. This is why I stayed at one of the nearby hotels. I too don't drink beer (or much of anything with alcohol really) and I was surprised that soft-drinks weren't available in the beer "hall". That was a huge fail (though one of the few I personally saw). Had I camped there I would have been just as miserable so don't feel bad and don't write off going to another one. Next time you know.

    Recommendations:
    • Offer soft drinks at the "beer garten" (I'm thinking selling alcohol is just a bad idea from a liability standpoint but that's just me). If one wants (or needs) to drink let them bring their own booze. Regardless, realize that a LOT of people don't drink alcohol and so leaving them to dehydrate while their buddies get drunk is a missed opportunity to increase revenue.
    • Collect door prize tickets at registration. I didn't realize I had to go to that building by vendor row until Friday afternoon.


    That's it for me. I thought overall it was very well run. Lots of people around to ask questions of. The grounds were very nicely kept up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MUNMI View Post
    The great volunteers at the table under the tent helped us through the process. (We were preregistered) .
    Thank you

    Sorry to hear your first time did not go well. The best we could, we tried to give people in the tent info that would help on finding their way around the first day.
    Finding your way around and figuring out everything on the first day can be a challenge at a big event like this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lee View Post
    Thank you

    Sorry to hear your first time did not go well. The best we could, we tried to give people in the tent info that would help on finding their way around the first day.
    Finding your way around and figuring out everything on the first day can be a challenge at a big event like this.
    My experience lands on the other side of the spectrum.... After registration on Thursday (which went very quickly with the QR code displayed on my phone) I really enjoyed walking around exploring the rally site. I just used the map from the provided book and walked once around to all the buildings and outdoor sites. Everything seemed huge at first, but after a single trip around, the site seemed much smaller. By the middle of the next day I was even a bit disappointed there wasn't more new stuff to look at LOL.

    I can see how it can be hard for some to find the right building by name using the provided map. - especially when using a combination of names based on the fair ground's name of a building and our rally name for the building. One alternative is use a combination of colors and numbers... So one building is Red-1, then Green-2, etc. Then it's easy to have bigger identifiers for the building using either colored balloons or streamers that are placed 8 feet or higher so can be easily seen from a distance. And because some are color blind then a large number on a big board - placed high up as well (perhaps using a 6 or 8 ft stake). I would think using this approach would make it much easier to identify locations from a distance as you are wondering around than a small signs in front of the building door.

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    First rally for me too. I arrived early about mid day on Tuesday which gave me plenty of time to find my way around for where I was volunteering to pour beer and to find out where I was doing my presentations with enough time to run out for another video adapter for my iPad.

    The high level of organization for such a large event was immediately evident and every volunteer I encountered was great, from there pretty much everyone I encountered was friendly. The only times I left the grounds I was checked for my wristband upon return.

    I was surprised and pleased with the full house I had for my first presentation and 3/4 full for my second. More than one person told me they thought mine was a nice change in that it wasn’t just another vendor trying to sell a tour.

    No hand sanitizer in or around any of the porta potties was definitely a fail in my books but easily remedied going forward.

    I know there was non alcoholic beer available but I have to agree other non alcohol drink options should be available for non drinkers.

    There’s a possibility I will be bringing my girl to a future rally even though she is not a motorcyclist.
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    Quote Originally Posted by skibum69 View Post
    I was surprised and pleased with the full house I had for my first presentation and 3/4 full for my second. More than one person told me they thought mine was a nice change in that it wasn’t just another vendor trying to sell a tour.
    I got the same feedback about my presentation in Des Moines. It hadn't occurred to me before, but in reviewing the list of seminars I see a high percentage of infomercials. The only way to change that is for we the members to step up and present alternatives. I hope to do that next year in Montana.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skibum69 View Post
    I know there was non alcoholic beer available but I have to agree other non alcohol drink options should be available for non drinkers.
    This issue probably is a matter of the contracts between the fairgrounds and the several food vendors on site that had water and soft drinks for sale. The beer garden and associated terms and conditions are always an issue complicated by state laws and by existing site rules and contracts.

    The nearest source of a soft drink was within about 40 feet of the beer garden. There were tables in the beer garden closer to this vendor than to the beer taps.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PGlaves View Post
    This issue probably is a matter of the contracts between the fairgrounds and the several food vendors on site that had water and soft drinks for sale. The beer garden and associated terms and conditions are always an issue complicated by state laws and by existing site rules and contracts.

    The nearest source of a soft drink was within about 40 feet of the beer garden. There were tables in the beer garden closer to this vendor than to the beer taps.
    Perhaps but that pizza place had fairly long lines. Regardless, having non-alcoholic options is just a no brainer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pappy35 View Post
    Perhaps but that pizza place had fairly long lines. Regardless, having non-alcoholic options is just a no brainer.
    Pappy35, please reread Paul's response again. Local regulations and local contracts with the fairgrounds regular vendors are the complicating factors at every fairgrounds the MOA has ever been to with regard to non alcoholic drinks. The regular fairgrounds vendors usually pay a substantial fee for that exclusivity and don't want other temporary vendors, such as our beer garden, taking a portion of their income off the top. Once you understand the situation, it is indeed a no brainer

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    My only complaint about the Rally was the volume level of the closing ceremony MC. Man, that guy had some lungs! Granted, I was near a speaker but I felt like he was yelling the whole time. I didn't mind the closing ceremony at all. I didn't have anywhere else to be so I figured I might as well enjoy it. I liked the performance center demo but missed the GS Giant course from the past. I always liked watching and helping out with the folks who tackled the course.

    I did notice that the signage leading into the Rally site (other than the big highway light signs) was kind of hard to read. Maybe some of those big flag banners would help get folks attention. I, and my #1st timer friends, loved the Rally site. Small enough to easily walk everywhere, plenty of AC space for vendors and seminars. I would have liked to see more seminars on the "basics". I only saw 1 seminar on GPS basic functions and basic maintenance tips.

    The Furkot seminar was disappointing. The presenter read from a slide for almost all of the seminar time. I was hoping for more of a "how to" class. My wife (1st timer) and our riding friends (both 1st timers) very much enjoyed the Women's Forum and the demo on picking up a bike.

    Jack Riepe needs a bigger space for any of his seminars. The room he had was filled to capacity with a lot of folks standing. I don't know if there was a bigger space at the Rally site than the Education Building where Jack's seminars were held. Same goes for Matt Parkhouse and his Airhead talks.

    All in all, I, my wife and my riding buddies thoroughly enjoyed the Rally site. We didn't camp so can't comment on those accommodations, but after 30+ years in the military, I know that clean shower facilities, when available, are a must.

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