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    Funny thing seats and butts. My wife and I went on a trip a few weeks ago, '18 RT, stock seat except I have Beadriders on my end. 2200 miles in 9 days and no complaints. One day we did 500 miles, another 600 miles, a bunch of short ones in the middle.

    After reading all the talk on seats I was half way geared up to face the fact that I would need a replacement but my setup is working fine for me.

    I have been riding Harleys for 14 years and I ran the stock seats.

    Just call me numb butt!
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    seat

    down side of the RDL is, you need your own pan for them to build the seat on. Russells are great if you can stand the down time. Top craftsmanship!
    Best thing is to try all of them if possible and see what feels the best. I don"t wear the same shoes as everyone either.

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    I've had Sargent, Bill Mayer, and RDL. There is no comparison in comfort level. I did 950 miles in one day on the RDL ... and I did it because I could. There was zero discomfort with the RDL. The RDL is simply the finest after market seat available.

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    Hey RDL users:

    The RDL site, under FYI, has some FAQ’s and one refers to the waterproof capability of their designs. It seems the stitching, no matter what material is used or treatment is utilized, compromises the seat’s water resistance to getting water logged. RDL suggests their seat cover, and seem to imply riding with cover installed during wet conditions.

    Anyone with practical experience with this? Is it necessary to ride the RDL with waterproof covers in rain? How wet does it have to get before the seats get soaked through?

    Thanks.

    (Edited for some typos)
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    Quote Originally Posted by GotFog View Post
    Hey RDL users:

    The RDL site, under FYI, has some FAQ’s and one refers to the waterproof capability of their designs. It seems the stitching, no matter what material is used or treatment is utilized, compromises the seat’s water resistance to getting water logged. RDL suggests their seat cover, and seem to imply riding with cover installed during wet conditions.

    Anyone with practical experience with this? Is it necessary to ride the RDL with waterproof covers in rain? How wet does it have to get before the seats get soaked through?

    Thanks.

    (Edited for some typos)
    I sealed each threaded seam with Milk Oil and never worried about it. Every needle puncture could take on water but mink oil seals thing as well as possible.
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    Yes, RDL saddles will take on water through the stitches. Our RDL saddles have gotten soaked on probably every bike we've had one on.

    RDL has several patterns, the squares having the most stitches by far, the small squares are almost all stitches.

    Our saddles are leather tops with vinyl sides in the rectangle pattern. Not as many stitches as the squares.

    We purchased their rain/sun covers at the same time we bought the saddles, and its best to put their cover on as soon as it starts to rain. Unfortunately they work kind of so-so.

    Dry time was not more than a day or two depending on how much rain we went through.

    It has never been a real problem and hasn't put us off getting another RDL saddle.

    In our opinion they are still the most comfortable saddles we've pressed our butts on, wet or dry.

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    No seat works for all behinds, just like no one specific spouse is perfect for everyone, we are all different. However, if the seat is custom made and fitted then it should come far closer than most.

    As Paul, Pete and others have said, there is no correct answer to this and anyone who says otherwise, unfortunately, I don't feel they fully understand motorcycle seats. What works well for one behind can be uncomfortable for another. Period. Therefore, just because seat "a" is terrific for one person doesn't mean it will be for another.

    Unlike car seats where you can have something like a Volvo seat work extremely well for virtually everyone,a motorcycle seat has to provide comfort and support to you even though you have a far more limited range of movement while seated.

    I have multiple bikes with multiple versions of the following:
    • stock (4)
    • Corbin (2)
    • Sargent (2)


    For me, the worst is the Corbin (too stiff), followed by the stock seats and the Sargent seats work very well for me. Others have better success with the RDL but I've known people who have had to have the RDL modified several times to get them right which is part of the "custom" seat process. I have known a few who could not get the comfort they were looking for from an RDL even with multiple fittings. FWIW, Sargent will also offers customized fitting at a price that brings them up into the RDL range.
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    Riding with the cover on

    Quote Originally Posted by GotFog View Post
    Hey RDL users:

    The RDL site, under FYI, has some FAQ’s and one refers to the waterproof capability of their designs. It seems the stitching, no matter what material is used or treatment is utilized, compromises the seat’s water resistance to getting water logged. RDL suggests their seat cover, and seem to imply riding with cover installed during wet conditions.

    Anyone with practical experience with this? Is it necessary to ride the RDL with waterproof covers in rain? How wet does it have to get before the seats get soaked through?

    Thanks.

    (Edited for some typos)
    I'm not sure my cover would hold up that well to being rode. It fit's OK if the bike is stationary, but it's not super tight around the edges. I'd be concerned it would start coming off. If you're on the seat, that part isn't going to get that wet. Put on some waterproof pants and dry the seat out later. A little mink oil and conditioner will go a long way as well.

    Jerry
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    Jerry Trepanier
    Augusta, MI
    2006 ST1300, 2010 R1200RT

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    Quote Originally Posted by jerryab9rj View Post
    I'm not sure my cover would hold up that well to being rode. It fit's OK if the bike is stationary, but it's not super tight around the edges. I'd be concerned it would start coming off.
    Jerry,

    We ride on our RDL covers when it rains.

    They will bunch up if not tucked in all around the seat. This takes some doing.

    So far I have not worn out a RDL seat cover.

    Either they are tougher than they look or we don't ride in the rain often enough to wear one out!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mehrten View Post
    Jerry,

    We ride on our RDL covers when it rains.

    They will bunch up if not tucked in all around the seat. This takes some doing.

    So far I have not worn out a RDL seat cover.

    Either they are tougher than they look or we don't ride in the rain often enough to wear one out!
    Love the seat but not the cover; too loose fitting that yes can bunch up and even become free flapping on an unoccupied passenger seat. Because of the poor fitting cover, when my leather rotted in one area, I had it recovered in vinyl.
    Paul F. Ruffell
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    Quote Originally Posted by phil2018k1600gtl View Post
    I have an 18 GTL and am 6’4”. I went with the RDL after a week out for 2000 miles on the stock seat which was a train wreck. I was too tall and too heavy for stock. RDL added height and suspension, retained the heat, and set it perfectly for both of us. We’ve done a few thousand miles on it and all the pain is gone. I tried the Sargent two piece and liked it but my passenger hated it. It was returned. We are both amazed with the RDL. I had a Corbin on my VStrom and it was amazing. I had a sargent on my bandit and it too was amazing. For the GTl, it didn’t work out. I’m an RDL fan for the GTL.
    I am 6' 3", and have a 34" inseam - so I am interested in a taller seat. What is an "RDL" seat? Everyone mentions Corbins or Sergeants and RDL - just need a definition of what RDL stands for.

    Thank you.

    Lee

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    RDL = Russell Day-Long Saddle.

    See: https://day-long.com/gallery/bmw/
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