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    What makes your BMW better than HSYHTD

    What makes your BMW bike better than a Honda, Suzuki, Yamaha, Harley, Triumph, Ducati, etc?

    Telelever and Paralever keeps the BMW bike more controllable that the Honda ST1100's anti-dive forks? I took a recent skills class with a dozen other bikes (Improve awareness and cornering skills). Nine of the bikes were Harley's and their braking distance was kind of long. Some of the other bikes were diving a lot on the corner turns when braking.

    Just curious what you found are BMW's engineering accomplishments. For me, the ABS, Telelever anti-dive, controllable power band on their K1200
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    After decades of riding Yamaha, Honda and most recently Triumph I noticed a big ugly BMW was able to go places my bikes couldn't with range my bikes couldn't match. So I traded to a GS, and eventually a GSA. I liked the feel from the start, especially in early spring when our paved roads here in Vermont were scarred from the potholes and frost heaves of winter. I've never looked back.

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    The luggage and lightness. Especially the easy removal of the top case and bags. For a riese tourer its really light.
    Turn on, tune in and ride off

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    How is a GSA on the highways and distance travels? How do you guys have two sets of tires for highway vs back roads?

    My K1200GT runs Michelin Pilot Road 4 GT Tires. Not good for muddy gravel roads. Nice on the roads though. The GSA looks to be fine with falling over with all the cage protection. I could use that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jrmull View Post
    What makes your BMW bike better than a Honda, Suzuki, Yamaha, Harley, Triumph, Ducati, etc?
    Same reason I own or have owned BMW, Porsche, Mercedes cars. Even VWs.

    Plus Ducatis are Italian ( and the first bike I owned).
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    I don't know that BMW is necessarily better than any of the listed brands, and all of them (yes, even Harley) make solid, reliable bikes. BMW, Triumph, KTM, Ducati, and Honda make something that might plausibly meet my needs in terms of comfort (seating position) and features. Someone I knew whose judgement I respected said that there was no comparison between a Tiger 1200 and a R 1200 GS handling-wise, the GS was far better. In addition to not having cruise control, the AT is just too tall for someone with a 29" inseam IMO. Ducati and KTM are stupid powerful (why tempt myself) and need chain maintenance (if I can avoid that, why not?). Servicing them could be an issue in the boonies, in fact a lot of KTM dealers are dirt-focused and leery of the Multistradas. Nobody makes a bike with the range of a GSA, so when I see a sign "no services next 150 miles" I don't feel like I need to start maximizing range right now.

    Technologically I don't think any of them are inherently superior to any other. Yah, Telelever vs. regular forks but I'm not convinced it's that much superior. Most shaft drive bikes have something that does what Paralever does in the rear so that's not differentiator. Boxer design does keep the bike from lying on its side and making it hard to pick up (not that I'd know about that...).

    Is there anything on the BMW that's missing on the Triumph, that I absolutely can't live without? No, although BMW's wonderwheel integration with the (overpriced) Nav is nice. Am I a good enough rider to make use of the BMW's better handling? No. Are there more aftermarket farkles available for the BMW? Maybe, maybe not. But WTH, I could afford a BMW, I wanted it, so I got it.
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    Better how? I think they have a good philosophy insofar as everything works well together. It's a competent bike. Not necessarily best in everything, but at least very good in everything. From reliability/cost of ownership, it's probably a different story. It depends on what's important to you and what your tolerance is for weaknesses in a particular area.
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    For me its not the bike so much as its the culture and dealership. Gateway BMW in St. Louis not only sold me a bike, they gave me insight to a way of life of connection to other like minded adventurous folks who get the feeling of unique composure I get when riding. Whether questions about mechanics, riding style, training, or destinations, BMW folks fill the niche in my heart with solid information and friendships that add so much value to my journey through life!

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    Quote Originally Posted by weschmann View Post
    ... Gateway BMW in St. Louis ...
    They have a R nineT Pure there Im dying to go get.
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    I am not impressed with the dealerships where I live now. Id go to Tucson or back to Iowa if I was buying new.


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    Upgraded from an R1200RT to my 2012 Gold Wing - never looked back. Truly the flagship of long-distance MC travel.

    As well as


    Oh crap. Wrong Forum.

    Disregard.

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    If Harley could build a bagger with some suspension I would have never looked into buying a RT. I still have my Harley Limited, and enjoy riding it, but I also enjoy the RT.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PoorUB View Post
    If Harley could build a bagger with some suspension I would have never looked into buying a RT. I still have my Harley Limited, and enjoy riding it, but I also enjoy the RT.
    They're building an adventure bike with a modern engine. We should see it next year.
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    I have been a BMW owner and rider for 42 years. In the early years what distinguished BMW from every other brand was the availability of parts. Since then it has been the dealers and the friends that have kept us riding BMWs.
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