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    MOAners.... why millennials are not joining us.

    1) Get offa my lawn!
    2) Doesn’t want to dress like a human highlighter
    3) Dislikes being judged by the cost of their farkles
    4) Likes to stay up past 9pm at rallies
    5) Wants to avoid constant lectures on safety, education and training
    6) Rides a 650cc bike that doesn’t weigh 500+ pounds
    7) Prefers looking straight ahead instead of straight up during conversations
    8) Would just as soon not camp in a mixture of mud and pee
    9) Gets turned of by having the “military superiority” card repeatedly played on them
    10) Would rather talk 10-year-old bike tech than interfacing with Bluetooth LCD panels
    11) Thinks that Depends are not required safety garb
    12) Can’t spend their entire vacation on one big event
    13) Rides an S1000RR
    14) Rides a customized vintage airhead
    15) Might be interested in getting involved, but doesn’t know “someone”
    16) Doesn’t want to hang out exclusively with old people.

    Could not resist. This is just too true!

    Ian

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    Quote Originally Posted by Visian View Post
    1) Get offa my lawn!
    2) Doesn’t want to dress like a human highlighter
    3) Dislikes being judged by the cost of their farkles
    4) Likes to stay up past 9pm at rallies
    5) Wants to avoid constant lectures on safety, education and training
    6) Rides a 650cc bike that doesn’t weigh 500+ pounds
    7) Prefers looking straight ahead instead of straight up during conversations
    8) Would just as soon not camp in a mixture of mud and pee
    9) Gets turned of by having the “military superiority” card repeatedly played on them
    10) Would rather talk 10-year-old bike tech than interfacing with Bluetooth LCD panels
    11) Thinks that Depends are not required safety garb
    12) Can’t spend their entire vacation on one big event
    13) Rides an S1000RR
    14) Rides a customized vintage airhead
    15) Might be interested in getting involved, but doesn’t know “someone”
    16) Doesn’t want to hang out exclusively with old people.

    Could not resist. This is just too true!

    Ian

    Pretty funny Ian.....

    As I watch the Uber IPO projections this morning that will propel Uber, a company that has never turned a profit, into a 9 billion dollar valuation..........
    I wonder which group is rocking that concept?
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    Thanks for the smile. When I read the other post yesterday I wondered if someone would offer an opposing view and you came through.

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    In 1981 I bought a new R65 at age 26. I was pretty much ignored by other BMW riders because, after all, we all know an R65 is not a real BMW. Some things never change . Nuff said.
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    Grouping people is never a good idea. We're one from many. At a local annual get together in the springtime, like most, few if no one ever says boo, groups mill around. However, after dismounting and getting my feet, a youngster came up and said, " Nice boots!" Too which I said, "thanx". We both smiled and moved along. She was young enough to be an X or a Y. But then I realized it doesn't matter because no one fits the grouping thing. Grouping is split'em up, which ruins clubbing, or getting together. Think about it. Two stents. FWIW.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikegalbicka View Post
    Thanks for the smile. When I read the other post yesterday I wondered if someone would offer an opposing view and you came through.
    Well, I actually laughed at the other thread... it’s important that we can laugh at each other!

    It was post #s 3, 4 and 5 that got me going. Life is just not that serious!

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    Quote Originally Posted by 8ninety8 View Post
    Grouping people is never a good idea. We're one from many.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Omega Man View Post
    Pretty funny Ian.....

    As I watch the Uber IPO projections this morning that will propel Uber, a company that has never turned a profit, into a 9 billion dollar valuation..........
    I wonder which group is rocking that concept?
    OM
    Heh, I was lucky enough to get in on GOOG at $85/share, AAPL at $7, MSFT (in 1983) at $10.

    Now I’m retired early and riding the wheels off my bike today in Corsica! I could afford a new BMW here, but my Honda CB500X (popular with millennials) is the perfect bike for the job!

    Keep on cranking, Gary!

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    Quote Originally Posted by rguy View Post
    In 1981 I bought a new R65 at age 26. I was pretty much ignored by other BMW riders because, after all, we all know an R65 is not a real BMW. Some things never change . Nuff said.
    In 1986 my business had a good year, I was 32, and a new G/SPD was mine!

    I can relate to what you are saying. Today these are cult classics (like your R65) but back then most people seemed to think they made no sense. fwiw, it was cool being the only bike in Daytona of its kind!

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    Quote Originally Posted by 8ninety8 View Post
    Grouping people is never a good idea. We're one from many.
    Absolute truth here.
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    And who cares anyway? Except for some members who are willing to increase membership at any cost! Motorcycle manufacturer statistics show that most millennials are not buying or riding motorcycles anyway (especially if you subtract non street legal machines). In your list, it seems to imply that the general membership are the bad guys and the reason membership is declining. I am tired of being considered the problem, because of my age. Most members that I know could care less what the membership numbers are. Only the folks that are interested in increasing the MOA revenue are most concerned.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shortythorne View Post
    And who cares anyway? Except for some members who are willing to increase membership at any cost!
    Hey, feel free to sit around your tents in the mud and pee and harrumph all you want. Our membership has declined nearly 20% in a past few years and we are not backfilling them with younger people.

    Gail, the first thing to know is this this was a joke, in response to another thread just like it that made fun of millennials. That was funny, too, but some of our members got their undies in a bundle, which I think illustrates our problem. If it were a generalization about anything, it was a generalization about people who walk around with their undies in a bunch, making people feel unwelcome.

    The second thing to know is that without membership, we got problems, whether most people you know care or not.

    The third thing to know is that without fun, we have terminal problems.

    The next thing to know is that this was a “Funny generalization” not a comment about you personally... or the membership as a whole. However, I’ve sat around camp fires together long enough to know the type of people that I personally would never seek to hang out with. Frankly, they are a real buzzkill.

    And that is my point... as a community we need to be cognizant of that behavior, and it starts with accepting the fact that it exists. Then we need to make the mutual commitment to eliminate it. If one were to spend any time with the younger people that we would like to have join our club and become loyal members, one would know that the behavior I poke fun at above is one of the key reasons they’re not becoming a part of us. We could offer them products and services until the cows came home and they still wouldn’t join because they don’t want to “be like that.”

    I hope you understand this.

    Ian

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    Quote Originally Posted by Visian View Post
    Hey, feel free to sit around your tents in the mud and pee and harrumph all you want. Our membership has declined nearly 20% in a past few years and we are not backfilling them with younger people.

    Gail, the first thing to know is this this was a joke, in response to another thread just like it that made fun of millennials. That was funny, too, but some of our members got their undies in a bundle, which I think illustrates our problem. If it were a generalization about anything, it was a generalization about people who walk around with their undies in a bunch, making people feel unwelcome.

    The second thing to know is that without membership, we got problems, whether most people you know care or not.

    The third thing to know is that without fun, we have terminal problems.

    The next thing to know is that this was a “Funny generalization” not a comment about you personally... or the membership as a whole. However, I’ve sat around camp fires together long enough to know the type of people that I personally would never seek to hang out with. Frankly, they are a real buzzkill.

    And that is my point... as a community we need to be cognizant of that behavior, and it starts with accepting the fact that it exists. Then we need to make the mutual commitment to eliminate it. If one were to spend any time with the younger people that we would like to have join our club and become loyal members, one would know that the behavior I poke fun at above is one of the key reasons they’re not becoming a part of us. We could offer them products and services until the cows came home and they still wouldn’t join because they don’t want to “be like that.”

    I hope you understand this.

    Ian
    Ian,

    The first thing you need to know is that I knew it all started with a joke! The OP was spot on too, and it WAS funny! Not all young people fit this description, but the majority do. However, it is NOT their fault they are this way. Lets put the blame where it belongs, and that is with their parents or the folks that raised them. None of this matters as far as the MOA is concerned, and isn't going to change anything.

    The second thing you need to know is that if the MOA membership continues to decline, so what? For me, it will not mean a thing except that I won't be sending in dues. It will not keep me from riding a motorcycle or having the like minded friends in the motorcycle family I have now. The only "problem" will be for the MOA's cash cow dying.

    I too have sat around campfires with undesirable folks. What has that got to do with anything? I do not buy that as part of the reason young people are not joining. They simple are not interested in the same things our generation is. I just get tired of the blame being always placed on our age group as being old farts, and not welcoming the kids. That is BS! I'll just bet that if a young person approached any one of us and sincerely showed an interest in learning to ride or joining us (if they could look up from their phone long enough), that we would be more than happy to mentor them...I would. It isn't a good idea to group all young folks into the same category, but by the same token, don't blame the current membership for the MOA's problems. It is ALL ABOUT THE MONEY! Just like in everything else. I wished the younger generation had the same interest in motorcycles that we do, but they don't and never will...things change, but quit blaming it on the wrong thing. This younger generation will have other things to offer, but it will not include what our generation wants or likes. We are all going to be dead soon, and none of this is going to matter anyway...so I'm going out and ride my motorcycle & hope someone doesn't kill me texting.
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    As a wise man once said, He who has ears, let him hear.

    Two well reasoned but opposite points of view that both have merit. Thanks for sharing. I appreciate you both taking the time to challenge me to think about how I feel on the subject.

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