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    Photos of "Big Boxer" Engine

    More photos of the engine from an Australian website:

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    Carburetors? Carburetors??

    That engine appears to be sporting traditional carbs, which would pretty much exclude it from meeting EPA specs and being sold in the USA. Oh sure, it could be it has FI cleverly disguised as carbs, ala Triumph, but the pics I’ve seen thus far would not support that idea. We shall see, I guess.

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    More Speculation about Big Cruiser - Timo Resch quoted

    "Timo Resch, BMW Motorrad’s VP of Sales and Marketing, says we’ll see more of a “direction in a couple of weeks,” which another exec let slide means the Villa d’ Este Bike Show, on the shores of Lake Como, schedjed this year for May 24-26 (and conveniently enough, sponsored by BMW). Even crazier, Timo says there will be a “serial bike” by 2020, which I believe is German for a production model. Say, that’s only nine months from now."

    See it here: https://www.motorcycle.com/features/...n-the-way.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by GTRider View Post
    That engine appears to be sporting traditional carbs, which would pretty much exclude it from meeting EPA specs and being sold in the USA. Oh sure, it could be it has FI cleverly disguised as carbs, ala Triumph, but the pics I’ve seen thus far would not support that idea. We shall see, I guess.

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    I didn't see a trace of lower pushrod tubes...two large valves?
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    Quote Originally Posted by henzilla View Post
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    I didn't see a trace of lower pushrod tubes...two large valves?
    4 valves doesn't need 4 pushrods. Check out a hexhead or oilhead.
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    ... or a Subaru
    The new 2020 Subaru will be a smaller turbo charged engine. They will do away with both the 3.6l and the 2.5l for a smaller engine. Meanwhile BMW seems determined to make the engines larger for an aging population of buyers.

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    Why pushrods? Because a 1800cc twin would explode if it revved fast?

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    I remember the R1200C was supposed to re-write the Cruiser rulebook.

    Yeah, not so much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RPGR90s View Post
    I remember the R1200C was supposed to re-write the Cruiser rulebook.

    Yeah, not so much.
    Hopefully they’ve learned something.


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    Quote Originally Posted by jamesevans View Post
    Why pushrods? Because a 1800cc twin would explode if it revved fast?
    The ZL1 and Z-28 camaros rev fairly well. So does the Corvette. Just saying. Which one would be cheaper to own for 10 years...The shiftcam or the 1800? My bet would be the latter. While the high tech stuff is cool and works well, I can see simplicity being attractive too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ExGMan View Post
    "Timo Resch, BMW Motorrad’s VP of Sales and Marketing, says we’ll see more of a “direction in a couple of weeks,” which another exec let slide means the Villa d’ Este Bike Show, on the shores of Lake Como, schedjed this year for May 24-26 (and conveniently enough, sponsored by BMW). Even crazier, Timo says there will be a “serial bike” by 2020, which I believe is German for a production model. Say, that’s only nine months from now."

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    I saw the Zon at Mama Tried, cool engine, but bike was not for me.

    American cruiser riders want displacement!

    At the time the R1200C was the largest BMW Boxer, right?

    A fundamental of a cruiser is a low seat and feet forward riding position, right where those 900cc cylinders would be.


    I'm curious what they are going to make.



    a parallel twin with a weird firing order to mimic a V-twin, like the Thruxton, would be a good idea, but their 850 is not going to cut it as a full size cruiser for the American crowd.


    My guess it will be a mid control bike, with looks like the Diaval or perhaps the HD FXDR, sorta a drag bike, lots of grunt, stoplight to stoplight.




    The FXDX is selling like crap and I do not think the Diaval is much better. The last VMax was a brute, but almost no one bought them.


    I for one think they could have a retro bike with the 850 engine. Sort of a "RNineT light", slotted under the price of the Pure. Give it a black tank and white pinstripes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ponch1 View Post
    4 valves doesn't need 4 pushrods. Check out a hexhead or oilhead.
    But they do have four pushrods...although stubby compared to the Airheads
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