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    Quote Originally Posted by Visian View Post
    Dude, whatever happened to “Ride Fast and Take Chances” ... did you get old or something?

    I had no idea that this model was restricted to 100mph. I wouldn’t buy it because of this and it makes me wonder if the bike’s design makes it unstable at speed?

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    10-20 years ago BMW built the Cruiser, 60hp and slowest in class, a total disgrace. Now BMW builds a Bagger; 1600cc, 6 cylinders, dual overhead cam, 4 valve head, and it can barely hit 100mph, and it wobbles. This bike should be the bestest, fastest, safest, coolest, Bagger on the planet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rogerc60 View Post
    Do you consider the pressure relief valve on your water heater to be a tyranny? Its purpose is to prevent the water heater from operating outside its safe design limits. Same for the speed limiter on the K1600B Grand America.

    I guess it all depends on how you define tyranny. And FWIW, Lewis is one of my favorites
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    No, I don't think the pressure relief valve is a tyranny, but I get no joy from increasing or decreasing my water pressure as I navigate the laundry either, so it's not quite an apt comparison.

    I do agree that in today's world of astounding technology that surpasses human ability to cope that limits may be necessary. However, I also like for my bike to be able to pull away from pick-up trucks at any speed. This probably stems from my early days of riding, the early 70's, in Texas, where certain types of young men in cowboy hats found it greatly amusing to force motorcyclists off the road, if they could catch up to them. Old habits die hard I guess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lougi View Post
    I like to know if some of you had the the computer remap on Grand America to cancel the limited speed set up?
    The original set up limited to 162 KM/H is realy dangerous in some occasion on the road.
    Any Dealers you know who could solve that promblem will be helpfull!!!!

    You're dreaming if you think any "bagger" is safe over 100 mph.

    Knowing BMW, they likely tested this. It was engineers doing the testing.

    Another fantasy is thinking you'll find a dealer that will defeat this safety feature for you.
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    Our 3 series is limited to 155. Should we sell?

    I'd prefer something over 100 on a motorcycle though. What I would not prefer is to pass blindly at over 100.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lkchris View Post
    Knowing BMW, they likely tested this. It was engineers doing the testing.

    Another fantasy is thinking you'll find a dealer that will defeat this safety feature for you.
    Although rare, I find myself in agreement with lkchris.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CABNFVR View Post
    Our 3 series is limited to 155. Should we sell?
    My car is limited to 186. I'm ok with that.

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    Would either of you be ok if your cars were limited to say 100 mph speed? Just curious. Something tells me you like real performance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by barryg View Post
    Would either of you be ok if your cars were limited to say 100 mph speed? Just curious. Something tells me you like real performance.
    Well, I wouldn't buy a bike that the engineers thought to be unsafe at over 100 mph. But to answer your question - no.

    I guess a feeble attempt to limit the speed of all cars and bikes was made in the '70s by mandating 85 mph speedometers by that paragon of safety-mindedness and rear-steering motorcycle prototypes - Joan Claybrook.

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    The primary criteria in determining speed limiting is where the rubber hits the road.

    Speaking strictly about the industry I am in, heavy equipment, semi's have the HP to hit serious speeds, the tires don't. You can gear a loader to get up to the 60 kmh range but they haven't made a tire yet that will.

    The speed limiter on my primary bike is 132 mph. My fun bike, the speed limiter is 156 mph. Both use the same tire/size but one is 150 lbs lighter than the other.
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    Quote Originally Posted by janda View Post
    Why am I under the impression that the K1600 Grand America has the BMW speed limiter, not the K1600B?
    You're correct, the K1600B Bagger does not have a limit
    https://www.bmwmotorcycles.com/en/mo...technical-data

    The K1600 Grand America does
    https://www.bmwmotorcycles.com/en/mo...technical-data
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lee View Post
    You're correct, the K1600B Bagger does not have a limit
    https://www.bmwmotorcycles.com/en/mo...technical-data

    The K1600 Grand America does
    https://www.bmwmotorcycles.com/en/mo...technical-data
    The main difference being the top case - which I think was mentioned previously.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ragtoplvr View Post
    That seems rather slow, for bragging rights. So some fat old guy on a dirty GS can run off and leave you. And of course the rider on the R1250RT can run off and leave him. The S1000RR rider yawns and shifts to 4th.

    There is always someone faster, smarter etc. Just go ride.

    Interesting stories beat bragging rights.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ponch1 View Post
    Pickups can go faster.
    So can my three cars. So what?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BC1100S View Post
    So can my three cars. So what?
    What are you going to do when that redneck in a white pickup decides to run you down on the interstate? Just saying. A bike that's capable of speed should have it available to skoot if one has to.
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