jamo
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Ultimately, I blame my obsessive compusive complex and the long winters in Wisconsin. By the time March rolls around, I'm in a motorcycle riding fit and searching for a new thrill. I had BMWs in mind because I'd had them in the past and good memories. I wanted to trade in 2013 Harley-Davidson Road Glide Ultra I got two springs ago for $11K. I thought it was too heavy and outdated since that model has been revised upward twice since then.
I traded it in on a 2015 BMW R1200RT w/14K miles discounted to $14,900 w/ BMW topcase. My reasoning was that the R1200 had twice the power, half the weight and double the technology. I asked if it had all option packages and John told me it was fully loaded. I took that as a "yes." He's a smooth salesman.
I'd known and worked with this Dealership since 1981 when I got my first real motorcycle, a 1976 R75/6. It's one of the older or the oldest dealership in the country in the original building. It's not really set up for test rides because the bikes are cramped in the showroom and tough to get out. I've had a few R and K bikes since then before I switched to Harley about 15 years ago. I thought I knew what I'd be getting. As the Baby Giant said to Bugs Bunny, "You can't outsmart me. I'm a moron!"
As I rode away, my upward smile turned down. It has some nice features, the moveable electric windshield, heated seat and grips. The ASE does nothing for me. I'd just as soon set suspension manually and leave it. It was no peppier than my 1983 GS1100E or any Japanese competition. It was cramped. When I put my feet up on the engine guard pegs, my knees are at my waist. I couldn't tour 250 miles without my legs cramping. The turn indicator is this cheap little Japanese style thing that I didn't buy a Triumph because of. You can't feel it with gloves on. I thought the topcase was a good backrest for my wife. It isn't. What was I thinking? It's half the bike the Road Glide Ultra was. And it cost $14,900! I'd have done better with the 2011 base model I looked at for $7K.
I asked the dealership to buy it back at $1500, $2000, $3000 less than I paid for it. The sales manager, Jason, wouldn't even take my call. John did, but they wouldn't by it back for wholesale or any price. I have to conclude that these are vastly overpriced and they can't unload them.
Once the bike was mine, they gave me one key! One, not two. It doesn't have remote start, so I think John might have been disingenious saying it is loaded since remote start is referenced in the Owner's Manual and I think it's part of a package. So one key, no seperate key for the top case. Any ideas I might have about parting the top case out I can just forget. They didn't tell me about that ahead of time. I had initialled the "arbitration clause" on the purchase agreement. I should have known better. Don't ever do that. You give up your legal recourse for no value.
I try to measure all injuries and disappointments against that of losing a child. So by that measure, this one is ultimately minor. But I lost at least two nights sleep so far and I've got more headaches ahead. And I'm not happy with the dealer. Bah!
I traded it in on a 2015 BMW R1200RT w/14K miles discounted to $14,900 w/ BMW topcase. My reasoning was that the R1200 had twice the power, half the weight and double the technology. I asked if it had all option packages and John told me it was fully loaded. I took that as a "yes." He's a smooth salesman.
I'd known and worked with this Dealership since 1981 when I got my first real motorcycle, a 1976 R75/6. It's one of the older or the oldest dealership in the country in the original building. It's not really set up for test rides because the bikes are cramped in the showroom and tough to get out. I've had a few R and K bikes since then before I switched to Harley about 15 years ago. I thought I knew what I'd be getting. As the Baby Giant said to Bugs Bunny, "You can't outsmart me. I'm a moron!"
As I rode away, my upward smile turned down. It has some nice features, the moveable electric windshield, heated seat and grips. The ASE does nothing for me. I'd just as soon set suspension manually and leave it. It was no peppier than my 1983 GS1100E or any Japanese competition. It was cramped. When I put my feet up on the engine guard pegs, my knees are at my waist. I couldn't tour 250 miles without my legs cramping. The turn indicator is this cheap little Japanese style thing that I didn't buy a Triumph because of. You can't feel it with gloves on. I thought the topcase was a good backrest for my wife. It isn't. What was I thinking? It's half the bike the Road Glide Ultra was. And it cost $14,900! I'd have done better with the 2011 base model I looked at for $7K.
I asked the dealership to buy it back at $1500, $2000, $3000 less than I paid for it. The sales manager, Jason, wouldn't even take my call. John did, but they wouldn't by it back for wholesale or any price. I have to conclude that these are vastly overpriced and they can't unload them.
Once the bike was mine, they gave me one key! One, not two. It doesn't have remote start, so I think John might have been disingenious saying it is loaded since remote start is referenced in the Owner's Manual and I think it's part of a package. So one key, no seperate key for the top case. Any ideas I might have about parting the top case out I can just forget. They didn't tell me about that ahead of time. I had initialled the "arbitration clause" on the purchase agreement. I should have known better. Don't ever do that. You give up your legal recourse for no value.
I try to measure all injuries and disappointments against that of losing a child. So by that measure, this one is ultimately minor. But I lost at least two nights sleep so far and I've got more headaches ahead. And I'm not happy with the dealer. Bah!
You really should have test rode it. How miles have you rode it? Maybe try it a while longer and see if it grows on you. If not sell it. Shame on the dealer if all this is true
