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    Question Road Pilot 5

    I'll be needing new tires on my 2016 RTW soon and it appears the 5's still aren't available for the RT's. Any one with any info? I went to the Michelin website and the 5's are available for jusr about every other BMW model.

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    Pilot Road 5 GTs are on hold right now for the RT. Michelin said this summer last year but they are on indefinite hold right now from all the scoruces I have looked.

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    A few people (me included) have tried Road 5s on RTWs. I never ride with a pillion, tour around mostly, and keep 38# front/ 42# rear. The weight-bearing capacity of the Road 5s is the same, front and rear as the Pilot Road 4 GT.

    The two RTW riders I know who've switched away from Road 5s have cited handling issues. I have not observed this, and rode a track day in July 2018 and thought the Road 5s handled the track day very well. I think they're a little noisy, but I wear earplugs all the time, so it's a non-issue with me. They do seem to handle rain very well. I think I spend 50% of my riding time in the rain, so this is a good thing.

    I'm sure others will have differing opinions.
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    A nit - the Michelin rep at the rally last summer said they've removed the word "Pilot" from the name, apparently people found it too easy to confuse the Pilot Power (sportbike) and the Pilot Road (sport touring) series. Plus the whole Pilot Road vs. Road Pilot issue. You can imagine they are really interested in people calling their products by their proper names.

    So although the PR2, PR3, and PR4 are still in their lineup, the improved Pilot Road 4 is not the Pilot Road 5, it's just the Road 5.
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    I talked to the Michelin rep for the US, he stated that the GT version (which is what he said we should be using on our RT's) won't be available until "late fall of 2019."
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    Quote Originally Posted by drneo66 View Post
    I talked to the Michelin rep for the US, he stated that the GT version (which is what he said we should be using on our RT's) won't be available until "late fall of 2019."
    Damn, thanks for the info. Guess I'll have to stick to the 4's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rwl1955 View Post
    I'll be needing new tires on my 2016 RTW soon and it appears the 5's still aren't available for the RT's. Any one with any info? I went to the Michelin website and the 5's are available for jusr about every other BMW model.
    Hmm, that's odd.

    My current set of tires are the "Road 5"s (went out and double checked the sidewall) and currently have 15,000 miles on them.

    Granted I did get the first set into the dealership and it just turned out I needed tires around 69,000 miles so I gave them a try.

    So far so good.

    AD (2014 RTW)

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    Quote Originally Posted by ADulay View Post
    Hmm, that's odd.

    My current set of tires are the "Road 5"s (went out and double checked the sidewall) and currently have 15,000 miles on them.

    Granted I did get the first set into the dealership and it just turned out I needed tires around 69,000 miles so I gave them a try.

    So far so good.

    AD (2014 RTW)
    Yes I had bought a set for my RT and would have run them no issues. IMHO they are fine on the bike.

    I rode a LOT of PR3 tires with no issues and not a GT in sight, or ever spoken about those tires.
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    FWIW I've had PR 5s on my R1200RS for over a year...in fact just put on the 2nd front to pass inspection. Very satisfied...so much so I see no reason to change.

    My BMW dealer installed these with no comment about needing a GT tire. I agree with the earlier post that says if the tire meets the recommended specs....that should be good enough!

    I see no need unless some one wants a stiffer (harsher riding) side wall.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vtbob View Post
    FWIW I've had PR 5s on my R1200RS for over a year...in fact just put on the 2nd front to pass inspection. Very satisfied...so much so I see no reason to change.

    My BMW dealer installed these with no comment about needing a GT tire. I agree with the earlier post that says if the tire meets the recommended specs....that should be good enough!

    I see no need unless some one wants a stiffer (harsher riding) side wall.
    It seems that there is a misunderstanding. I was told the GT doesn't have stiffer sidewalls but an extra belt. This would be why they both have the same weight rating.
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    Quote Originally Posted by patm View Post
    It seems that there is a misunderstanding. I was told the GT doesn't have stiffer sidewalls but an extra belt. This would be why they both have the same weight rating.
    Michelin's web site has a 120/70/17 in GT and standard, both load rating 58 and a 190/55/17 GT and standard both at load rating 75 !! According to another Michelin web page the GT is described as ... well, it's still not clear.


    p.s. I also found a good load rating guide.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CABNFVR View Post
    Michelin's web site has a 120/70/17 in GT and standard, both load rating 58 and a 190/55/17 GT and standard both at load rating 75 !! According to another Michelin web page the GT is described as ... well, it's still not clear.


    p.s. I also found a good load rating guide.
    Load rating is part of it. But that in and of itself does not explain either carcass stiffness or squirm. And these latter factors have an effect on handling regardless of load rating alone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vtbob View Post
    FWIW I've had PR 5s on my R1200RS for over a year...in fact just put on the 2nd front to pass inspection. Very satisfied...so much so I see no reason to change.

    My BMW dealer installed these with no comment about needing a GT tire. I agree with the earlier post that says if the tire meets the recommended specs....that should be good enough!

    I see no need unless some one wants a stiffer (harsher riding) side wall.
    I also have Road 5s on my R1200RS and currently have over 4,00o miles on them. They are a great all around tire. On my recent trip to Helen, GA they were great in the 400 plus miles of rain. Sometimes the rain was significant for miles on end. Once down in northern GA the Road 5s were excellent on the twisty roads.

    When I need new tires I will be replacing them with another set of Road 5s.

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    I just read on two French motorcycle websites, this one and this one that the Road 5 GT is now available, however I haven't found any other source. Not even Michelin's own website.
    Maybe it's going to be a France only tire?
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    Quote Originally Posted by patm View Post
    I just read on two French motorcycle websites, this one and this one that the Road 5 GT is now available, however I haven't found any other source. Not even Michelin's own website.
    Maybe it's going to be a France only tire?
    The Visor Shop has them and are pretty good price wise. I got them in 2 days to PA and have gotten other stuff from them and they ship very fast.
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