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    Is there a list anywhere of venues that meet our requirements? If not, is there a list of those requirements so members can keep their eyes open and make suggestions that meet the MOA inclusion criteria?

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    Quote Originally Posted by glenfiddich View Post
    If not, is there a list of those requirements so members can keep their eyes open and make suggestions that meet the MOA inclusion criteria?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bogthebasher View Post
    Ed, Rinty and I might have to acquaint you with 'Cowboys' watering hole too.

    One thing we do have is some very good choices in locally brewed beers for those inclined.
    I've done a lot of research in that area.

    I would suggest that the main problem with the Stampede grounds as a venue is a serious lack of grass space for tenting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mcmxcivrs View Post
    I've done a lot of research in that area.

    I would suggest that the main problem with the Stampede grounds as a venue is a serious lack of grass space for tenting.
    Yes, That is true. What about the Millarville Racing & Agricultural Society? Now that is a jumping off point right near of a ton of good riding.

    https://goo.gl/maps/3UqgVi2zW7x
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    Interesting options, but I suspect the 2020 contract has already been set. Facilities big enough to host the MOA rally, and with suitable facilities, generally run their bookings as much as three years out. By all means keep the research and suggestions going, just be aware that facility selection has to look further into the future than you might think.

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    Thanks, Lee. Is there a list of sites that have already been evaluated/vetted?
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    Quote Originally Posted by glenfiddich View Post
    Thanks, Lee. Is there a list of sites that have already been evaluated/vetted?
    I don't know.
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    Quote Originally Posted by glenfiddich View Post
    Thanks, Lee. Is there a list of sites that have already been evaluated/vetted?
    I think there are a half dozen or so sites that have proven to be superior. Missoula, Saint Paul, Bend, OR, the one in the Hudson Valley, etc. And there are also the losers: Bloomsburg at the top of that list.

    If I were King I would find the best two sites in each of the three zones and just keep using them. But, alas, I am not the MOA King.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PGlaves View Post
    I think there are a half dozen or so sites that have proven to be superior. Missoula, Saint Paul, Bend, OR, the one in the Hudson Valley, etc. And there are also the losers: Bloomsburg at the top of that list.

    If I were King I would find the best two sites in each of the three zones and just keep using them. But, alas, I am not the MOA King.
    Makes complete sense to me. The vetting process would shorten (but wouldn't be eliminated) since time, people and facilities change... I do like riding to different parts of the continent though but do want to end up at a nice venue as well.

    ...and every two cycles through or so maybe a single venue in the upper part of North America.
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    We had a good time making fun of Des Moines but the site was very nice

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    Des Moines was a great site. The temps a bit hot. But a change to a June date would help that a lot. I spent a day on the range with the Camp Gears young people. It was hot. But the venue was great and I would go back in June almost any year. Except when we go to Fargo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PGlaves View Post
    I think there are a half dozen or so sites that have proven to be superior. Missoula, Saint Paul, Bend, OR, the one in the Hudson Valley, etc. And there are also the losers: Bloomsburg at the top of that list.

    If I were King I would find the best two sites in each of the three zones and just keep using them. But, alas, I am not the MOA King.
    Thanks. The rally in Vermont was very well attended...but looking at the requirements I'm not sure the Essex Fairgrounds would make the cut again. I wonder how many other stellar areas no longer cut the mustard.

    Members look for different things in a rally. Some insist it have exciting rides in near proximity, while others plan exciting rides there and back. Some love to see all the vendors' offerings, while others live in places blessed with well-stocked dealers. Some camp to enjoy the camaraderie while others insist on a soft bed and a private shower.

    I think attempts to please everyone will lengthen our list of inclusion criteria till we block ourselves out of some very nice sites and find ourselves in a spiral of decreasing attendance. St Paul and Des Moines were both very nice, well organized rallies that were not given a chance by many who looked only at the surrounding area. My first rally was Johnson City TN. It was very nearly my last as aside from the registration tent I felt very much an outsider. I was delighted at the next rally I attended to see the First Timer buttons and the welcoming reaction of rally veterans throughout the grounds. A huge thanks to whoever came up with that idea!

    To encourage attendance of new members, how about giving one free rally voucher to riders who join the MOA? They know they have a good bike when they buy a BMW; let's encourage them to meet the family.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PGlaves View Post
    I think there are a half dozen or so sites that have proven to be superior. Missoula, Saint Paul, Bend, OR, the one in the Hudson Valley, etc. And there are also the losers: Bloomsburg at the top of that list.

    If I were King I would find the best two sites in each of the three zones and just keep using them. But, alas, I am not the MOA King.

    ... AND wouldn't be nice if the Rally (MOA) did that with our event...
    until WE were recruited by "somewhere" that wanted us ($$$) enough... to do even better than their business competition!

    "travel'n" John

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    Great idea

    Quote Originally Posted by glenfiddich View Post
    Thanks. The rally in Vermont was very well attended...but looking at the requirements I'm not sure the Essex Fairgrounds would make the cut again. I wonder how many other stellar areas no longer cut the mustard.

    Members look for different things in a rally. Some insist it have exciting rides in near proximity, while others plan exciting rides there and back. Some love to see all the vendors' offerings, while others live in places blessed with well-stocked dealers. Some camp to enjoy the camaraderie while others insist on a soft bed and a private shower.

    I think attempts to please everyone will lengthen our list of inclusion criteria till we block ourselves out of some very nice sites and find ourselves in a spiral of decreasing attendance. St Paul and Des Moines were both very nice, well organized rallies that were not given a chance by many who looked only at the surrounding area. My first rally was Johnson City TN. It was very nearly my last as aside from the registration tent I felt very much an outsider. I was delighted at the next rally I attended to see the First Timer buttons and the welcoming reaction of rally veterans throughout the grounds. A huge thanks to whoever came up with that idea!

    To encourage attendance of new members, how about giving one free rally voucher to riders who join the MOA? They know they have a good bike when they buy a BMW; let's encourage them to meet the family.

    Pete
    Great idea on free rally vouchers, make it even better with a great first time swag bag ( t shirt hat beer tickets etc ). New members need lots of encouragement to socialize in person not just online.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 179212 View Post
    Great idea on free rally vouchers, make it even better with a great first time swag bag ( t shirt hat beer tickets etc ). New members need lots of encouragement to socialize in person not just online.
    I like it!

    Johnson City was an interesting rally. When I arrived and selected a spot to set up my tent I was greeted by a woman who informed me I could not set up there (fifty yards from her) unless I had accepted Jesus as my personal lord and savior. I gave her a long look, taking in the dozens of pins and patches proclaiming her piety, and decided I didn't want to camp that close to her. For a day and a half the only people who greeted me were the vendors; everyone else seemed to be members of closed cliques.

    Remembering that feeling, I now go out of my way to welcome anyone wearing a 1st Timer button. If there was a volunteer position to welcome rally newcomers, I'd sign up in a flash!

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