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    Quote Originally Posted by 35164 View Post
    I agree that there is a huge depreciation in value when you drive off the new bike. Itís always been that way. In comparison, a new RT in 1985 was $7500. A new car was about $15000 American style a new BMW was about $25000. So it was about 1/3 the price of an average BMW car.

    Now the RT and GS bikes are all pricing out at $25000 the way BMW is packaging them state side. About half the cost of the BMW cars. Why is that? Itís that way because BMW was subsidizing the bikes in those days and ownership supported the cars carrying the bike business. Itís not that way anymore at BMW. The bike projects are being run by the car guys now and the bikes need to finance themselves. Thatís what is giving us the generally higher new prices. All that low interest rates offered by mfr financing sources is offset by inflated new prices as well. In the first year they will drop from 25K to 16 K. Pay to be first is the rule for new shift cam toys. In 2003 I paid $20k to get out the door with gear helmet and latest / greatest bike. Iím not doin that again.


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    I've always bought at the end of the season (Sept and Oct) and have gotten killer deals. In addition I usually keep each bike 8 to 10 years. So my depreciation is not so drastic. But it is all personal choice whether you want the "latest and greatest model" or are happy with saving $4-6000 on last year's model. Cars are a whole different story. I have in the past bought late model (2 or 3 years old) low mileage vehicles and saved a lot. Today the used car market has gotten crazy and the nice late model used models seem to save you less making it almost as beneficial to buy new and get a full warranty.
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    I had a 2008 Hexhead, and loved it until I rode a 2018 Wethead. Way smoother better handling and way more power. Tranny is butter smooth. Can't really speak to maintenance, cause I haven't really done anything but change oil. That job is worse on the Wethead, they put the oil filter right where it drains onto the head pipe. But a little Al foil takes care of that. I love all the improvements in the 18, and my 08 was loaded with everything available, like my 18. If ya got the $ go for a wethead, 17 or 18

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    Quote Originally Posted by brhartw View Post
    Can I get some comments on whether to get the water cooled version or the non-water cooled....
    I have an '05 Hexhead and I demo'd the water cooled version last summer. It was an amazing bike, but I chose to stay with my current bike because it is less complex, and I prefer the analog instrumentation.

    Suggest you ride both of them and see what your impressions are.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rinty View Post
    I have an '05 Hexhead and I demo'd the water cooled version last summer. It was an amazing bike, but I chose to stay with my current bike because it is less complex, and I prefer the analog instrumentation.

    Suggest you ride both of them and see what your impressions are.
    Less complex maybe .... but ironically the water cooled bikes are cheaper and easier to maintain. And you can still get analog dash

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    The RTW Of course. Why would you get a bike thatís at least 6 years old,thatís not being made anymore for your primary transportation / touring? Unless thatís all you can afford.

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    Thanks everyone.

    2017 Alpine white RTW in the garage!

    Woo hoo!
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    Yes, as another owner of a 2017 Alpine White RT, I agree with you excitement. By the way, it turns out the White is the best handling and fastest of all of the 2017 colors.
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    Yes, do you notice cars tend to pull over to the right as you come up behind them?

    Classic
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    Quote Originally Posted by orforester View Post
    I had a 2008 Hexhead, and loved it until I rode a 2018 Wethead. Way smoother better handling and way more power. Tranny is butter smooth. Can't really speak to maintenance, cause I haven't really done anything but change oil. That job is worse on the Wethead, they put the oil filter right where it drains onto the head pipe. But a little Al foil takes care of that. I love all the improvements in the 18, and my 08 was loaded with everything available, like my 18. If ya got the $ go for a wethead, 17 or 18
    Yes keep that failing rear end and exploding driveshaft, hahahahaha.


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    Quote Originally Posted by brhartw View Post
    Thanks everyone.

    2017 Alpine white RTW in the garage!

    Woo hoo!
    Now that you have that new bike in the garage, what will be the first thing you get for it?

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    Insurance?

    haha

    Its got so many goodies now, I'm not sure what to get.

    The seller gave me Ilium foot boards. I'll try those to see if they make sense.

    Suggestions?
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    Quote Originally Posted by brhartw View Post
    Insurance?

    haha

    Its got so many goodies now, I'm not sure what to get.

    The seller gave me Ilium foot boards. I'll try those to see if they make sense.

    Suggestions?
    I got something to keep the battery charged, and a new tank bag.

    I can remember having more fun reading the owner's manual. I must have read it several times.

    Enjoy the bike!!

    E.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kevinsclo View Post
    Yes, coming from a 2012 RT to a 2017 RTW, the very first thing that got my attention is the lower centre of gravity. And yes, it seems smoother in terms of power delivery as well.
    Yes, the entire bike is lower, hence no factory lowered models as in previous generations ... just seat choices.

    My theory is ... more female police motor officers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lkchris View Post
    My theory is ... more female police motor officers.
    Not likely. You need an inseam of at least 31 inches to flat foot the bike. I donīt know too many of my female colleagues who have that inseam.

    They really need to have a lowering kit.

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    OK Good suggestions.

    Yes, the owners manual is fun to read. LOL

    How about setting the radio stations? Yikes!

    I just bought a tail bag to use as a glove box. Not sure If I can trust the attaching system I can picture my cell phone and wallet dancing down the fast lane and me driving happily away Ugh!
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