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Thread: Anyone ever take the MC training at the BMW Performance Center in SC?

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    Authority course versus the on-road course

    Howdy y'all,

    I'm looking at the training offered at the Performance Center, and considering maybe doing a Saturday/Sunday on-road/off-road combination or the two-day authority course for around the same price.

    How much overlap is there between the two days of motor / authority training and the one day on-road course?

    The thought of getting comfortable with loose gravel, terrain, etc., in the off-road course is also really appealing (and getting to repeatedly drop someone else's moto while learning, heh).

    Just looking for feedback to tilt the scales one way or the other.

    Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by austinlonghorn View Post
    Howdy y'all,

    I'm looking at the training offered at the Performance Center, and considering maybe doing a Saturday/Sunday on-road/off-road combination or the two-day authority course for around the same price.

    How much overlap is there between the two days of motor / authority training and the one day on-road course?

    The thought of getting comfortable with loose gravel, terrain, etc., in the off-road course is also really appealing (and getting to repeatedly drop someone else's moto while learning, heh).

    Just looking for feedback to tilt the scales one way or the other.

    Thanks!
    I recently did the two day off road course and can recommend it highly. One thing the Instructor said was that much of skill taught in the off road course applies on road as well, but that is not true the other way around, for whatever it's worth in helping you decide.

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    I recently did the two day off road course and can recommend it highly. One thing the Instructor said was that much of skill taught in the off road course applies on road as well, but that is not true the other way around, for whatever it's worth in helping you decide.
    Thanks; I've kind of heard the same over the years, that off-road skills are easily transferable to the pavement.

    Anyone else care to comment on any of the on-road training? I've had the opportunity to do the (~ half day?) PDC thing twice (very nice cages: E90 335i / F22 M235i) and wonder if the one-day, on-road Motorrad course is about the same thing - road course practice following lines, obstacle avoidance + braking, etc.

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    I just completed the two-day motorcycle authority class. It was a day and a half of very intensive slow speed maneuvering around cones. It was much like what you see motorcycle cops doing when they compete at those MC rodeos. The last half of day two was spent at the track where we did high-speed emergency braking, obstacle avoidance, and emergency maneuvers. I highly recommend the class if you want to improve your on road slow speed skills. The folks who seemed to do the best at it were off-road riders, to begin with. I personally had a very hard time wanting to throw the bike into a hard right or left handlebar lock and give it some throttle. It definitely gave me things that I need to work on.
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    Thanks for the follow up. Do you feel you got your money's worth and did it help you improve those slow speed skills enough to increase your confidence or will it take more practice to get there?

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    For me it will take a lot more practice on my part. The whole issue is really mental. I have dropped the bike before at a full lock and had a real hard time trusting the bike. I definately got my money's worth because it did teach me many things, and I certainly know how to do the skill, it is a matter of making myself trust the bike and do it. I think it just depends on how you feel personally about 'tricycle steering' at slow speeds. If you feel pretty comfortable doing it then you should pick things up pretty quickly. If not, then you will at least learn what you should be able to do. The nice thing is that you are using their bikes. You will drop it and it is better to practice with their bike instead of yours.
    Lynn Lopez - 19 S1000XR
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    I was on the same course with Lynn and want to add a bit of my impressions:

    The course was great, its makes you confident with the bike on a different level. the fact that you don't really afraid to drop the bike, letting you try things that with your own you probably will not do.

    The only things I would add to this course is just little bit more deep theoretical explanations.

    I did many (like 12-14) different on and off road courses few years ago in other country where I lived, and always learned something new even by taking same course in different schools.

    Worth the money? on my opinion, definitely yes.
    Motorcycle in USA in not necessity, we buying bike for fun, we paying 20-30K for bike and few more $K for accessories. I hope most of people here also wearing right (and not cheap) protection, which cost another few $K, so additional some $$$ to make you more professional rider and possible save the life doesn't look like waste to me.

    P.S. English is my fifth language, please excuse me

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    This feedback is great, thanks y'all.

    It seems like folks are generally signing up for the two day authority / two day off-road courses? I might also give the PDC folks a call next week and see if they can explain what their one-day courses are like versus the longer formats.

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    I called the PDC folks and they said the one day on-road course is definitely more of an introductory course (MSF-like).

    So the two day courses (2 day off road or 2 day authority) are where the more intense training opportunities lie (in terms of it being worth the trip out there).

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