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    Quote Originally Posted by jkjohnson View Post
    Well, the HexEZcan is a relay/fuze device completely separate from the bike's circuits, except that it takes signals from the canbus circuit to get signals for its own battery-supplied circuits. It has four circuits nominally available, two 10-amp circuits, and two 4-am circuits. One of the 10 amp circuits is intended for auxiliary lights, and has a dimming function--when used for lighting--controlled by the Wunderwheel. Instead, I used that circuit for my electric garments, which draw around 6 amps max (most of the time I use about 25% of "max."--gets too hot otherwise) The Wunderwheel provides more "positions" or heat settings--about 7--than typical heat controllers. To better sense (too hot or too cold) the heat change after an adjustment I put an incandescent pilot light in the circuit so I could quickly see the effects of my Wunderwheel heat adjustments. You can also turn it "on" or "off" by holding the turn signal switch for a few seconds. The Hex is more compact than the usual relay options, so easy to fit under a R1200GS rear seat. I like it because it simplifies wiring.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Omega Man View Post
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    Denali has its own version of that, under their own brand name Denali CANsmart controller.

    Also the Clearwater CANopener works with the BMW Wonder wheel. It has some of the features found in the Hex module and uses the CANbus. Clearwater does not sell the CANopener as a stand alone unit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by patm View Post
    Denali has its own version of that, under their own brand name Denali CANsmart controller.

    Also the Clearwater CANopener works with the BMW Wonder wheel. It has some of the features found in the Hex module and uses the CANbus. Clearwater does not sell the CANopener as a stand alone unit.
    Pat, not wanting to nit-pick, but the Denali is a re-branded Hex unit made for Denali by Hex. It's a small difference but it is significant. The Denali unit comes with Denali plugs on the wiring so it works very well if you are using all or mostly all Denali accessories. Not as well if most of your connections are not Denali plugs.

    My limited experience with the Clearwater CANopener (I've got two) is that it is more proprietary than the Hex/Denali alternative, however, all will work if you have any of these.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AlanColes View Post
    Pat, not wanting to nit-pick, but the Denali is a re-branded Hex unit made for Denali by Hex. It's a small difference but it is significant. The Denali unit comes with Denali plugs on the wiring so it works very well if you are using all or mostly all Denali accessories. Not as well if most of your connections are not Denali plugs.

    My limited experience with the Clearwater CANopener (I've got two) is that it is more proprietary than the Hex/Denali alternative, however, all will work if you have any of these.
    My answer was in reply to OM's remarks "First I have heard of Wunderwheel integration of any type of vendor accessory. Lay it out for us if you can. OM".
    It seems I wasn't clear but I believe that is exactly what I said.

    As to the CANopener there are more functions available than just the lights. There are extra wires coming out of that little box. CANopener manual.
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    got Gerbings jacket,gloves and socks with a Warm & safe dual controller mounted in the left side panel on my 2018 RT. Works great

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    So with the current gear from any brand, are the heating elements less physically noticeable than the 'electric blanket wires' type in my circa 2006 Gerbings jacket liner? It's holding up well due to infrequent use but won't last forever, and I never liked the placement of the elements in the arms- no heat on the inner faces of the arms, which with a wide GS handlebar are exposed to the wind.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The_Veg View Post
    So with the current gear from any brand, are the heating elements less physically noticeable than the 'electric blanket wires' type in my circa 2006 Gerbings jacket liner? .
    A couple years ago when I looked at Warm and Safe and Firstgear the wires felt the same as my 2003 Gerbing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The_Veg View Post
    So with the current gear from any brand, are the heating elements less physically noticeable than the 'electric blanket wires' type in my circa 2006 Gerbings jacket liner? It's holding up well due to infrequent use but won't last forever, and I never liked the placement of the elements in the arms- no heat on the inner faces of the arms, which with a wide GS handlebar are exposed to the wind.
    Not sure but the amount of wire to be powered has to have a limit due to amperage draw. I believe that the heating wires need to be "somewhere" so they are located in the best spots for usage and longevity of the garment. The heat provided is supposed to be retained with an outer layer which is used to provide overall warmth.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The_Veg View Post
    So with the current gear from any brand, are the heating elements less physically noticeable than the 'electric blanket wires' type in my circa 2006 Gerbings jacket liner? It's holding up well due to infrequent use but won't last forever, and I never liked the placement of the elements in the arms- no heat on the inner faces of the arms, which with a wide GS handlebar are exposed to the wind.
    The Gen4 WarmNSafe gear uses heating panels instead of just wires threading through the gear. I think I recall Gerbing having a new offering using that same sort of technology. And, both manufacturers build gear as suppliers to vendors who sell heated gear under their own moniker. Be aware that such contractual arrangements allow for specification changes in the contracted gear, so while vendor B may advertise gear as “made by” that doesn’t mean it’s a direct duplicate of what mfg A is selling. Such arrangements are pretty common throughout a wide variety of industries.

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    My inclination at this point would be to call Mike at Warm & Safe and do whatever he recommends.
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    Here's the link for the Gen 4 Warm and Safe jacket liner.
    https://www.warmnsafe.com/collection...s-heated-liner
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    Note that WarmNSafe also has an upgrade program where you can trade in your old gear...

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    Quote Originally Posted by GTRider View Post
    Note that WarmNSafe also has an upgrade program where you can trade in your old gear...

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    Also in the Vendor section of the ADV forum there's a 18% off coupon code.
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    I really like my first gear heated vest because it has elastic on the sides and fits snug against your base layer. Very effective!

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    I really like my first gear heated vest because it has elastic on the sides and fits snug against your base layer. Very effective!
    Made by Warm N Safe I think.
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