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    Firstgear Pants Comparison

    I'm looking for pants to complete my gear-up. Ideally it'd fit over my office khakis, is completely waterproof, easy to get into and out of without removing shoes/boots, and is warm enough to ride for an hour down into the high 30's to low 40's.

    Does anyone here know the differences between the Kathmandu vs. Kilimanjaro pants line?
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    You're describing the TourMaster Quest pants ($100) that both I and my SO wear regularly (including in rain) and truly enjoy.

    But since they didn't make your rather short list, never mind.

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    First 2 requirements Aerostich Darien or A D 1 pants can’t be beat. With light baselayer, regular pants and Darien pants should be plenty warm also pants are sized so you buy what you normally wear.
    I purchased a Kathmandu jacket and pants tried them on wore around house and thought both pants and jacket to heavy and just not right for me, so returned them.
    I purchased 2 pair of Dariens on line very happy with. Check marketplace on Forum often Darien’s listed.
    Consider one of the roadcrafters also, waterproof and easy to get on and off and again fit over work clothes.

    Read Kevin’s post, went to RevZilla read description pants look similar to Darien’s have good reviews and are on sale $92
    RevZilla good place for reviews and descriptions of motorcycle gear, compare your 2 choices there.
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    Thanks for the suggestions fellas but I neglected to mention that sizing was an issue for me (just call me "short-round" ). I skipped the Tourmaster, despite being a huge fan, because they don't offer 'short' cuts and for my 38" waist I'd have to get get pants that would be 3-4 inches too long. Even with the given that length needs to be a bit long, that would be unworkable. The Darien's are very appealing (I've always liked Aerostitch) but I'd have to pay extra to have them shortened.

    EDIT: I just noticed that TM does have short lengths for some lines.
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    Have you looked at Olympia pants? I have a set of the Air Glide 3 pants (Now 4) over pants. They come with a bottom that can be tailored to your inseam (up to 6"). The rain liner can be worn on the inside or outside of the pants. I wear it on the outside most of the time which also gives you another layer of protection from the cold.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lstayner View Post
    Have you looked at Olympia pants? I have a set of the Air Glide 3 pants (Now 4) over pants. They come with a bottom that can be tailored to your inseam (up to 6"). The rain liner can be worn on the inside or outside of the pants. I wear it on the outside most of the time which also gives you another layer of protection from the cold.
    Good stuff. I have two different styles of Olympia pants, but admit the tailoring adds about $35 to the cost of the garment. However, might solve the inseam issue.

    I found the TourMaster a nice addition to my wardrobe menu when I don't want that much bulk over my casual or dress pants, but still want the wind cut and waterproof. They're also stylish enough that they don't get stripped off on lunch breaks when touring.
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    Well, I got one each of the Kilimanjaro and Kathmandu and neither one fit. They were both too long and the knee pad was so far out of whack I could not place it over my knee. Anyway so now I'm thinking I should go with an Aerostitch Darien or AD1. They are more expensive but they can 'hem' them by removing material from above and below the knee.

    Anyone out there with a short/round body type have Aerostitch gear care to chime in on how they fit?
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    Might get in trouble but but could there be some short round sized ladies pants? Riding stuff mostly gender neutral I think.

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    Hadn't thought of that. Good idea. Thanks.
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    For some extra $$ try Motoport custom fitted pants, you wonted be disappointed

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    Aerostitch has a sale going on now and had a pair of AD1's that had been modded by the removal of 1.5" above the knees. Same price as the Firstgear pants I've tried with the sale so I've then on the way. If these don't work then I guess it'll be full custom order time.
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    if you have not looked into them, i have tourmaster flex pants. fit all your performance needs and come in short sizes.
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    Saw this Aerostich listing on ADV Rider (scroll down the thread about half way)- not sure if it's your size or still available, but if it is it's a screaming deal:

    https://advrider.com/f/threads/pnw-f...77466/page-665
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    FYI: Aerostitch has an R-3 in 50S for a little over $700 including their extra 10% (total of 40% off retail) but when I called them they seemed to believe it would be too long in the torso for me.

    They explained also that they don't do tailoring to any of their suits, jackets, or pants after they are manufactured due to issues they have resealing them. I was a little surprised by this but she said something about how it's very labor-intensive to separate the seams, resew, then reseal them. As much as labor must cost them I understand why they would not want to disrupt their production to do a bunch of one-off tailoring jobs. She did say though that if I could find a tailor that knows how to work with this kind of fabric that they would "supply all the materials" and I think that's awesome. She further explained that they would not cover customer-performed alterations but that they would not refuse a warranty claim on a different part of the piece like some manufacturers try to get away with.

    The AD-1's I bought are 42R with 1.5" removed above the knee. I fear they might be too big around the waist and still too long but I scored them for $307 brand new (would have been almost $500 if I'd had them tailor a new pair for me which is less than the Motorports would end up costing). If they don't fit I can return them and then will have a much better idea what size I'll need to special-order.
    Last edited by pappy35; 12-28-2018 at 07:26 PM. Reason: Found a typo: How would they remove material from "above the waist" in a pair of pants! Haha!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by mlytle View Post
    if you have not looked into them, i have tourmaster flex pants. fit all your performance needs and come in short sizes.
    I don't think they make that particular model anymore. Different manufacturer I know but the two FirstGear pants I tried (Kathmandu in 38S and Kilimanjaro in 42S) were both 3-4 inches too long. I KNOW my inseam is 29" so I don't know what the dealio is. My local Cycle Gear had a few 'short' length pants in stock and they were too long as well. I've more or less given up on finding off the shelf gear so I've going to try and see if Aerostitch will work.
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