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    Heated gear 2018

    I am looking to get some new heated gear and in these times of fast changing technology I am clueless. My old equipment from tour Master was bulky, uncomfortable and with the wired controller not always easy to manage.
    I live in the Pacific NW so I am not facing the extremes of temperature. Mountain passes and extended damp chilly rain are about the worst things I face.

    With that said, I am looking for jacket and pant liners that use battery/plug power to supply heat, rather than bulky fabrics that are intended to keep you warm i.e. the Tour Master line. Their early design seemed redundant.
    Additionally I like the thought of the remote controller as way of cutting down on wiring, or am I misunderstanding the use of "Remote"
    So fellow Forum members in 2018, what is the state of heated gear? Any suggestions, considerations or experience would be very helpful, and appreciated.
    From the moderately cold, but damp NW
    Brian Kenny
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    I agree with you about the term remote controller being an abuse of the term remote. My Tourmaster is fine but bulky it is and the remote isn't exactly discrete.
    When it fails or if I get fed up and sell the Tourmaster, this is what I'm going with: https://www.ventureheat.com/motorcycle-heated-gear.html
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    Hot Stuff

    I am satisfied with heated stuff from Aerostich have one old unobtainum vest and a newer Kanetsu Airvantage vest with zip on sleeves both have power cord with lighted push button on off switch, if they get to hot turn off for a bit, both work great. Both cheap, both looked unused, off eBay less than $150 airvantage one, less than $100 for unobtainum one. Keep lookout on marketplace on this forum and eBay people either really like them or donít like them, ones that donít like seem to sell cheap.

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    There are quite a few threads on heated gear- Here is one on repair that may interest you.
    https://forums.bmwmoa.org/showthread...ng-heated-gear
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    Warm N Safe. https://www.warmnsafe.com

    Buy it once, trade up when a new model comes available, superb customer service, and a full range of controller configurations to fit your needs.

    No vested interest, just a satisfied customer for over a decade...


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    Yuup Warm-n-Safe works for me. Light weight not bulky at all and works as advertised. The Dual remote controller is great no wires to the jacket except the one to the battery.

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    Use HexEZCan for heat controller

    I know you said you wanted to use a battery, but . . . It is really nice to have the heat control "at your fingertips", not tucked in a pocket or dangling somewhere, so I use the Wunderwheel on a R1200GS to control the heat, via a hard-wired HezEZCan as the control/relay/fuze. Works great. Gong to use it tomorrow morning--forecast is for 40 degrees and fog. Reply if you want more info.

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    Quote Originally Posted by patm View Post
    I agree with you about the term remote controller being an abuse of the term remote. My Tourmaster is fine but bulky it is and the remote isn't exactly discrete.
    When it fails or if I get fed up and sell the Tourmaster, this is what I'm going with: https://www.ventureheat.com/motorcycle-heated-gear.html
    +1 on the venture heat. I bought a discontinued model on amazon for $65. Very happy with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jkjohnson View Post
    I know you said you wanted to use a battery, but . . . It is really nice to have the heat control "at your fingertips", not tucked in a pocket or dangling somewhere, so I use the Wunderwheel on a R1200GS to control the heat, via a hard-wired HezEZCan as the control/relay/fuze. Works great. Gong to use it tomorrow morning--forecast is for 40 degrees and fog. Reply if you want more info.
    First I have heard of Wunderwheel integration of any type of vendor accessory. Lay it out for us if you can.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Omega Man View Post
    First I have heard of Wunderwheel integration of any type of vendor accessory. Lay it out for us if you can.
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    You can use the wonder wheel to control aftermarket lights.
    I have not heard of using it for heated gear but I guess if you can vary the brightness of lights you can vary the heat.
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    +3 on Warn 'n' Safe...very satisfied customer. I do have the remote controller and I just have it velcroed to the top of the brake reservoir. I also have the electric gloves and the controller has separate dials for each. Nice to have it in easy eye view.

    Reminder...in order to work properly, a heated jacket liner needs to fit VERY snug (not loose like a normal, lightweight jacket). Proper size should fit like a jacket that is slightly too small for you as you need to have the heating elements next to your body in order for them to work efficiently.

    Good luck with your purchase decision.
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    Thanks everyone for the input..

    after reading the comments from this forum and others I headed out to see what the local BMW dealer carried. Their favored jacket liner was the Firstgear 90 watt. Tried it on and it felt comfortable, suitably snug as well as lightweight.
    I think it will work very well under my Darien Light.

    The dealer did not have any of the dual remote controllers in stock so I started checking web sites and ended up on Revzilla. They had a remote for the First gear, but clearly marked "Warm and Safe".
    To avoid warranty issues I did some further checking and it turns out that the heated Firstgear equipment is actually from Warm and Safe. So that is on order with expected arrival this week.
    Following a major service, new tires and now the heated gear I think I am ready for the NW Winter.
    Thanks everyone for your suggestions.

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    My EZCan jacket control implementation

    Quote Originally Posted by Omega Man View Post
    First I have heard of Wunderwheel integration of any type of vendor accessory. Lay it out for us if you can.
    OM
    I rigged my Hex Ezcan as the controller for my electric garments, plus the other usual items, lights, horn. Nice, neat installation controlled by the existing Wunderwheel (for intensity), & turn signal selector (for "on" "off.") Cheaper and neater than a typical heat controller, mounted on the handlebars, or wherever.

    Bike: 2017 R1200GS

    I used EZCan Configuration 3, e.g.,

    Red Circuit: Air horn operated by normal horn button. (Factory horn, left in place, works simultaneously, too.) (breaker tripped when set at 10 amps, but seems to work OK when set to 15 amps. I used a $16 horn from Ebay. Annoyingly loud--which is what I wanted, primarily for animals. [see http://katu.com/news/local/bear-stru...marion-county] Due to the different way that I had to use the "orange" circuit (below) the EZCan cannot flash my fog lights when the horn is sounded. <http://www.ebay.com/itm/Motorcycle-C...tem46665a94df: g:jrgAAOSwi8VZU07i&vxp=mtr>

    Orange Circuit: Dedicated heated garment (jacket+gloves) circuit, breaker set to 10 amps. (2.4 ohm load with heated jacket and heated gloves in parallel--worst case-- or 14v/2.4ohms= ~6 amps.) Also have very small incandescent pilot light in this circuit to give me a visual indication of power (heat) level. [I initially tried an LED pilot, but it flickered annoyingly at low power due to PWM so I switched to an incandescent, which is more even-tempered.] Since I opted to use a nominal 10 amp "lighting circuit" for the heated jacket--and instead used the "white" accessory circuit for my fog lights, it means that I don't have access to the trick flashing of the fog lights normally associated with a typical EZCan installation. My red incandescent pilot light is from an airplane ($40) and has a twistable shutter to dim the lamp, if need be. https://www.aircraftspruce.com/pages/el/presstotestindicators/ms25041.php> The bulb should last forever at the very low heat settings that I anticipate.

    Yellow (brake) Circuit: Brake light (s), set to 1 amp for auxilliary LED license plate frame lights ($17.) Similar to <http://www.ebay.com/itm/Universal-Mo...BQAAOSw42JZAvH 2&vxp=mtr>

    White (aux) Circuit: Two 10w LED Cree "fog" lights ($12 each) in parallel (1.3 amps measured; breaker set to 2 amps.) These are for enhanced recognition. Might go to slightly bigger lights now that I see that I have a couple amps extra to play with . . . <http://www.ebay.com/itm/2inch-10W-Cr...QkAAOSwQjNW9f0 Y&vxp=mtr>

    The EZCan concept is a little inflexible if you want to do something that they hadn't intended, but I am sure they will improve on the device, add more features, etc., over time. On my former F800GT I had wired in a FuzeBlock (brand) relay for my previous F800GT bike, but the EZCan is much more compact and elegant.

    I used Positaps (2) and Posi-splices (a lot of them) and they are all working without incident, but I am thinking of switching to knife splices for enhanced vibration resistance, covered with shrink for insulation.

    For those tempted to do something likewise, it is worth noting that Denali is selling a licensed version of the Hex EZCan with a somewhat different feature set. It might be worth investigating that device for your future projects. It does cost, however, about $100 more than the EZCan and I am not sure if what it offers is worth the extra money.

    Winter is coming and I'm ready!

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    Nice, interesting
    Thanks for the follow up.
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