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    Upshifting

    I struggle to get a clean shift from 1st to second when I'm getting on it. It seems to clunk into second instead of the smooth shift I get in the upper gears. I have better luck barely pulling in the clutch when I up shift. I see there a technique to doing this when your upshifting from a hard acceleration

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    Between 1st and 2nd up or down it's going to clunk - fullstop.
    I tend to avoid autoshifting this combination. If however you are talking about manual upshifting between 1st & 2nd, then I don't seem to have this issue.
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    I have been experiencing that too with my 2017. Thought there is something wrong with my gearbox.


    Quote Originally Posted by jemmons View Post
    I struggle to get a clean shift from 1st to second when I'm getting on it. It seems to clunk into second instead of the smooth shift I get in the upper gears. I have better luck barely pulling in the clutch when I up shift. I see there a technique to doing this when your upshifting from a hard acceleration

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    Well, Going 1st to 2nd (or visa versa) is also going through Neutral so there is a wider gap for the gear shift selector to traverse.

    Two things may help.

    1st to 2nd: Shift with a firm and deliberate movement. You have to get the selector all the through the shift change movement of 1st/neutral/2nd. A "limp ankle" (gun reference) movement will cause some issues.

    2nd to 1st: Shift into 1st Between 10 and 5 mph. You will find that it will snick into 1st without any drama as the gear to engine speed is well matched.

    This is my experience shifting with the clutch on a 2017 R1200GS anyway!
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    Gearshift Pro is nearly perfect on my 17 RT.

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    I have same problem on my 16 1200gs, but when you go up from first to second at 5-10 mph clunk disappear


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    Upshifting

    Quote Originally Posted by roger 04 rt View Post
    Gearshift Pro is nearly perfect on my 17 RT.
    Worth the investment? I have been sitting on the fence about this option...

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    Quote Originally Posted by kevinsclo View Post
    Worth the investment? I have been sitting in the fence about this option...
    I added it to my 2015 RT. I like it a lot, and use it about 50% of my riding time. I always use a clutch from 1 to 2, and 2 to 3. After that, smooth and comfortable. All downshifts are smooth with a closed throttle. SAPro was great at a track day, BTW.

    I think it works better on 2017s and newer due to a transmission change...something called judder damper.
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    I find pre-loading the shifter a bit helps on my 17 RT.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kevinsclo View Post
    Worth the investment? I have been sitting on the fence about this option...
    Not for me. It came with the bike so I have it but I feel I can shift much more smoothly without it than with. We all have our little quirks, and smooth shifting is one of mine, when I get it right the only "tell" is a change in engine speed, no chassis movement at all.

    IMO, SAP takes more effort on the shifter to downshift, and while the auto-blipper is cool to listen to the shift itself feels jerky. I sometimes ride a F700 and clutchless upshifts and downshifts on that bare-bones bike are smoother than on my GSA with SAP. If I'm going to have to pay attention to road speed, throttle position, and engine loading to get a smooth shift anyway, I'd rather not pay to do it.

    There's always the possibility I'm using it wrong too. I've never been able to get it to work as well for me as the people who say it's the best thing since sliced bread. Having to work at using somthing that's supposed to make life easier doesn't make sense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kevinsclo View Post
    Worth the investment? I have been sitting on the fence about this option...
    I will sell you mine... Just kidding, I will keep it for the bike resale, but I find it worthless.
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    Quote Originally Posted by roger 04 rt View Post
    Gearshift Pro is nearly perfect on my 17 RT.
    I use Gearshift Pro a lot, especially when riding 2-up. Smoother shifts than with clutch, just have to up shift to second sooner than other gears to avoid jolt.

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    For shifting into 4th, 5th and 6th gears it is very smooth. Sounds like a F1 car when under hard acceleration.
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    I use GSP frequently for downshifting my '16 R 1200 R, 6 to 5 to 4 to 3. That's it. Too often when trying to go from 3 to 2, I get NEUTRAL!!! Bad juju. Never bother with it for upshifts.

    OP - your experience is normal. Use GSP higher up in the gear range.
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    On 1-2 upshifts, I also find that a slight preload on the lever yields a very smooth shift...snicks right into gear. I was also skeptical regarding Pro shift...until I decided to start using it. Now, it's probably 70% of my shifts. I love it and it's smooth at butter.
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