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    Quote Originally Posted by Wethead View Post
    My two cents:

    I got a Sarge and I am real happy with it.

    After 'many' aftermarket seats throughout years ( you ll get bored of reading this if I listed them all) My judgment is that Sargent uses the best quality foam. It gives you a firm feel that eventually translate into a 'memory foam' result making the arises very comfortable.

    There is nothing wrong with the RDL if you dont mind the raise in height, which means leaning over more and sitting higher on the bike. To me, the RT has to be almost too small for you in order to benefit from an RDL--now that may be a little stretch from the truth--but it's something like that.
    Probably the wrong time of year to ask, did you get the heated seat? If so, how does it compare to the stock heated seat?

    Thanks,
    John

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    I set my stock seat on the middle setting and the Sargent seat on the middle setting had me scrambling to turn it down. YMMV
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  3. #33
    Quote Originally Posted by EvryDayRide View Post
    Probably the wrong time of year to ask, did you get the heated seat? If so, how does it compare to the stock heated seat?

    Thanks,
    John
    Sorry I did not answer you earlier J. I been jamming.

    I did not get the heated cause I never use the heat on the seat, Ever!. Typically I unplug the heat connectors so that its not a pain in the arses when I take the seat off for something: like install/take out the topcase, install or take out my Aerostich little saddle bags whose straps go under the seat.

    You didn't ask me but I am gonna tell you: I think a heated seat is a waste of money and time. Particularly for me since I am either riding on the tropic throughout winter on in the mainland in Summer. But I tell ya this: I rode in 40 deg weather along the West Coast in Summer time and my rain jacket over my old Transition2 Tourmaster jacket, a rain pant over my summer riding pant keeps me comfy.

    And my opinion is that if you ride in weather below 40 you need 'winter-gear'. I don't think a hot seat is gonna help you that much.

    I do use the heated grips occasionally cause my weather gloves are cheap. For gloves, I use a cheap water proof glove with the thing winter insert from Cyclegear. These are like same material at tights and they keep the hands warm enough.

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  4. #34
    Quote Originally Posted by hool119 View Post
    I set my stock seat on the middle setting and the Sargent seat on the middle setting had me scrambling to turn it down. YMMV
    Thank you. That's what I was wondering.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wethead View Post
    Sorry I did not answer you earlier J. I been jamming.

    I did not get the heated cause I never use the heat on the seat, Ever!. Typically I unplug the heat connectors so that its not a pain in the arses when I take the seat off for something: like install/take out the topcase, install or take out my Aerostich little saddle bags whose straps go under the seat.

    You didn't ask me but I am gonna tell you: I think a heated seat is a waste of money and time. Particularly for me since I am either riding on the tropic throughout winter on in the mainland in Summer. But I tell ya this: I rode in 40 deg weather along the West Coast in Summer time and my rain jacket over my old Transition2 Tourmaster jacket, a rain pant over my summer riding pant keeps me comfy.

    And my opinion is that if you ride in weather below 40 you need 'winter-gear'. I don't think a hot seat is gonna help you that much.

    I do use the heated grips occasionally cause my weather gloves are cheap. For gloves, I use a cheap water proof glove with the thing winter insert from Cyclegear. These are like same material at tights and they keep the hands warm enough.

    I hope I didn't wear out your ear.
    You didn't wear me out! Thank you for the reply and for starting the thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ptarmiganboy View Post
    Iím hoping the RDL is the answer for me on my new to me 2015RT. I put a Corbin on my DL650 which was an improvement over stock but not good enough for long days on the road.
    I have a drive-in date on October 2, and so looking forward to the ride down from BC. Hereís hoping the ride home is more comfortable than the ride there.
    So I got my new seat. Drove into Russell Cycle Products after a four day ride from BC. They had a loaner seat for me, so I wasnít without wheels while they did the job.
    They asked specifically if I was worried about the seat height. I said no, even though Iím no giant. About 32Ē inseam. I could just flatfoot the stock seat and the new seat is a little higher. Iím doing the slide forward thing when I want both feet on the ground. Itís no problem at all. I may even move the seat to the high position for touring because it moves me farther from the foot pegs.
    Touring comfort is my only real concern since that is 99% of my riding. This seat is excellent, I can go four hours without a thought about discomfort and longer with only minor discomfort. One hour break and Iím good for several more hours.
    My max on the stock seat was 1 hour, usually less, much less towards the end of a long day.
    At $500US for the rider seat only itís not cheap but so worth it to me. The black all vinyl seat matches the stock pillion seat pretty well.
    One other point of note for me anyway (6í1Ē) is that the seat has me sitting higher, and now I have a little more wind noise with the stock windshield even at the highest position. So Iíll probably need an aftermarket screen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ptarmiganboy View Post
    So I got my new seat. Drove into Russell Cycle Products after a four day ride from BC. They had a loaner seat for me, so I wasnít without wheels while they did the job.
    They asked specifically if I was worried about the seat height. I said no, even though Iím no giant. About 32Ē inseam. I could just flatfoot the stock seat and the new seat is a little higher. Iím doing the slide forward thing when I want both feet on the ground. Itís no problem at all. I may even move the seat to the high position for touring because it moves me farther from the foot pegs.
    Touring comfort is my only real concern since that is 99% of my riding. This seat is excellent, I can go four hours without a thought about discomfort and longer with only minor discomfort. One hour break and Iím good for several more hours.
    My max on the stock seat was 1 hour, usually less, much less towards the end of a long day.
    At $500US for the rider seat only itís not cheap but so worth it to me. The black all vinyl seat matches the stock pillion seat pretty well.
    One other point of note for me anyway (6í1Ē) is that the seat has me sitting higher, and now I have a little more wind noise with the stock windshield even at the highest position. So Iíll probably need an aftermarket screen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ptarmiganboy View Post
    So I got my new seat. Drove into Russell Cycle Products after a four day ride from BC. They had a loaner seat for me, so I wasnít without wheels while they did the job.
    They asked specifically if I was worried about the seat height. I said no, even though Iím no giant. About 32Ē inseam. I could just flatfoot the stock seat and the new seat is a little higher. Iím doing the slide forward thing when I want both feet on the ground. Itís no problem at all. I may even move the seat to the high position for touring because it moves me farther from the foot pegs.
    Touring comfort is my only real concern since that is 99% of my riding. This seat is excellent, I can go four hours without a thought about discomfort and longer with only minor discomfort. One hour break and Iím good for several more hours.
    My max on the stock seat was 1 hour, usually less, much less towards the end of a long day.
    At $500US for the rider seat only itís not cheap but so worth it to me. The black all vinyl seat matches the stock pillion seat pretty well.
    One other point of note for me anyway (6í1Ē) is that the seat has me sitting higher, and now I have a little more wind noise with the stock windshield even at the highest position. So Iíll probably need an aftermarket screen.
    At 6' 1" and 32" seam, you can probably handle the RDL elevation. Albeit, like you said: you are sitting higher which decreases the efficacy of the shield and has you reach forward to the bars more. While you are enjoy the comfort of the RDL, take a moment to empathize with your feller Americans who is below your tree top at less than 6'. I use my bike for commuting after Summer's tours and in traffic, I would find it a pain in the rear to be tippie-toeing around at ever stop light or slow traffic.

    My beef with RDL has been their unwillingness to make lower seats for us midgets. I think if they wanted to, or if they ever get a Leadership with some savvy, they would be able to replicate their seat construct in a lower format; and I be willing to bet it would be nearly as comfy as that lunar high sofa format they are stuck with. Probably would make more money also. There's gotta be some narrow minded folks in that outfit insisting on that one-and-only seat.
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    If I was riding a lot in stop and go traffic I wouldnít have the RDL either. Not being able to easily flatfoot is a more dangerous way to get around, not to mention a pita when parking.
    I may drop mine because of the seat height but, the hours of touring comfort are an acceptable trade off for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wethead View Post
    At 6' 1" and 32" seam, you can probably handle the RDL elevation. Albeit, like you said: you are sitting higher which decreases the efficacy of the shield and has you reach forward to the bars more. While you are enjoy the comfort of the RDL, take a moment to empathize with your feller Americans who is below your tree top at less than 6'. I use my bike for commuting after Summer's tours and in traffic, I would find it a pain in the rear to be tippie-toeing around at ever stop light or slow traffic.

    My beef with RDL has been their unwillingness to make lower seats for us midgets. I think if they wanted to, or if they ever get a Leadership with some savvy, they would be able to replicate their seat construct in a lower format; and I be willing to bet it would be nearly as comfy as that lunar high sofa format they are stuck with. Probably would make more money also. There's gotta be some narrow minded folks in that outfit insisting on that one-and-only seat.
    Good to see another vertically challenged rider here. I'm looking at options for being able to flatfoot or near-flatfoot an R1200RT being used for commuting/touring. I'm 5'6" with short legs. What has worked for you?

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    Muller, look up either Sargent or Seth Laamb seat.

    Talk with Mark at Sargent and share your situation with him. He is a very congenial, super good customer service

    Seth is talented guy, but he can be difficult to deal with. You need good communication skills to tolerate him sometimes. But he also can make a comfy seat without raising you to the moon like RDL.
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