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    Quote Originally Posted by rhaines View Post

    If you are experiencing twitchy on the Michelins the Pirelli Angel GT takes twitchy to a whole new level! I had 22K miles on the bike before installing Angel GT and geez it was a good 500miles before I acclimated to those tires, coming from PR4GT. That twitchiness translated to poor ability to hold lines in curves compared to the PR4GT which was decent in those terms. The Angle GT also wore in 4 discrete planes of wear I I think if anything holding lines got worse as the tire wore. Turn-in was too easy as it were. Here are the Angel GT w/ about 6500m on them:

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    Here are the Conti RA3's after about 5K miles which show a more uniform curvature--can't seem to rotate the photo:

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    Interesting! Your experience with the Angel GT mirrors mine! Although you're much more scientific about it than I am. Twitchy at first, loved the way they handled after about 500 miles, noticed serious "chicken strips" at about 5,500 miles. The Angel GTs handle great in the rain, but I think I'll try something different next time.
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    So, I ended up buying the Continental Road Attack 3's. Getting them put on next week, we'll see how it goes. Thanks to all who responded to the question.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stebe View Post
    So, I ended up buying the Continental Road Attack 3's. Getting them put on next week, we'll see how it goes. Thanks to all who responded to the question.
    I got mine yesterday, but have only have a total of 5 miles on them from riding home. I'm looking forward to putting them though their paces.

    One item of note. My installer said that they took "a lot of weight" compared to the Metzeler Roadtec 01. In fact the rear tire want a whole lot, so he spun it 180 degrees on the rim and then tried to balance again, which was better. Even so, both front and rear required increases in weight.

    I'll be curious to see if the same is true of your tires.
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    Quote Originally Posted by alegerlotz View Post
    I got mine yesterday, but have only have a total of 5 miles on them from riding home. I'm looking forward to putting them though their paces.

    One item of note. My installer said that they took "a lot of weight" compared to the Metzeler Roadtec 01. In fact the rear tire want a whole lot, so he spun it 180 degrees on the rim and then tried to balance again, which was better. Even so, both front and rear required increases in weight.

    I'll be curious to see if the same is true of your tires.
    I have mine being installed tomorrow, and Ill post here on the weight on both front and rear.
    Im very excited to get them tested out, also it looks like Metzler is going to warranty my tires, the benefits I think of having a reputable dealer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alegerlotz View Post
    I got mine yesterday, but have only have a total of 5 miles on them from riding home. I'm looking forward to putting them though their paces.

    One item of note. My installer said that they took "a lot of weight" compared to the Metzeler Roadtec 01. In fact the rear tire want a whole lot, so he spun it 180 degrees on the rim and then tried to balance again, which was better. Even so, both front and rear required increases in weight.

    I'll be curious to see if the same is true of your tires.
    It turned out the rear tire required the same weight, the front was one weight less than the Michelins had been. Mechanic said RT's tend to need a bit of weight due to the monitoring system, more than due to whatever tire was being used.

    I tried to pay attention to differences on the way home, 150 miles, of course the Michelins were worn. The bike still wanders easily, although perhaps not quite as twitchy as before, I think that just "is what it is", so to speak, but trying to remember what the PR-4's were when new these (Continentals) seem quieter, very smooth ride, gripped well when dipping deep in corners. Are there any differences that are significant? I probably lack the skill to know. We'll see how they do in the rain. They do seem quieter than the Michelins ever were.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stebe View Post
    I Are there any differences that are significant? I probably lack the skill to know. We'll see how they do in the rain. They do seem quieter than the Michelins ever were.
    Yep--the RA3's do not scallop at standard psi like the PT4GT does, they retain their shape best, make no significant noise, have fabulous grip on dry or wet. The only unknown for me is how long they will last. I'm at almost 6K now and lots of life left. They are the best tire for line holding for this motorcycle, at least compared to Michelin and Pirelli Angel GT.

    IMO the only thing that gets Mich PR4GT's apparent large following is advertising (and the fact it has been the first tire on the bike for many, and why I bought a 2nd set!) and herd mentality!

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    Sportmax roadsmart iii

    I just bought a set of SPORTMAX ROADSMART III tires today. They currently are running a $50 rebate which makes the tire pretty darned cheap ($239 less tax for a set). I am not ready for new tires but will be in another month. If you have them installed, they give another $25 in rebates. I ran them on my FJR1300 and had no issues.

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    tires

    Go to Chaparral.com they are offering Dunlop road smart 2s for unbelievable prices, seems they bought up all they could and I just got a set for my 2014RT for less than $300 for the pair shipped to my house

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    Quote Originally Posted by ncpbmw1953 View Post
    Yep--the RA3's do not scallop at standard psi like the PT4GT does, they retain their shape best, make no significant noise, have fabulous grip on dry or wet. The only unknown for me is how long they will last. I'm at almost 6K now and lots of life left. They are the best tire for line holding for this motorcycle, at least compared to Michelin and Pirelli Angel GT.

    IMO the only thing that gets Mich PR4GT's apparent large following is advertising (and the fact it has been the first tire on the bike for many, and why I bought a 2nd set!) and herd mentality!
    If you look at the photo's real close of the new 2019 RT you will see Metzlers on it.

    So you are correct its all about advertising that gets certain tires noticed.
    These RA3's I feel so far are going to be awesome.

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    Took about an 85 mile loop on well known roads today, ran through a couple rain showers, these RA-3's are decidedly great tires. I'm very happy with the outcome.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stebe View Post
    Took about an 85 mile loop on well known roads today, ran through a couple rain showers, these RA-3's are decidedly great tires. I'm very happy with the outcome.
    I too found the R1200RT with PR4s “twitchy” to say the least. How much better are the RA3s going in a straight line?

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    Quote Originally Posted by roger 04 rt View Post
    I too found the R1200RT with PR4s “twitchy” to say the least. How much better are the RA3s going in a straight line?
    Still wanders easily, just not as much and more smoothly. Really holds the corner lines nicely. The bike feels more planted, so to speak, at least that's how it feels to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stebe View Post
    Still wanders easily...
    Can't relate to this comment w/ these as I can ride 'no hands' for a mile and be able to hold a line w/ just a little arm rudder to offset the crown in the road, whereas it was harder to do with the other tires used. The RA3's do better on linear grooved pavement as well, I think due to their tread design.

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    Thanks for these inputs. I’m still riding both the 1150GS and 1200RTW. The 1150 holds a MUCH better line I’m hoping a tire change away from PR4s helps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ncpbmw1953 View Post
    Can't relate to this comment w/ these as I can ride 'no hands' for a mile and be able to hold a line w/ just a little arm rudder to offset the crown in the road, whereas it was harder to do with the other tires used. The RA3's do better on linear grooved pavement as well, I think due to their tread design.
    What I'm trying to get across is that the RT will change directions when I merely look away from a straight line, more a function of the rider input on a short wheelbase, not the tire. My comment was poorly worded. I said it because with the Michelins the "wander" was more like falling quickly away from straight, thus my calling them "twitchy", whereas the Continentals aren't as prone to it. They turn great when I want them to, but are less susceptible to tiny inputs that weren't meant to turn the bike off course. They do indeed hold a line quite well. I'm very happy with them so far, if they last the distance as well as they handle, I suspect I'm through shopping around for better tires.

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