Motorcycle Dolly

[beemerdood]

I had three Park-n-Moves at one point when I had a small garage. Now with plenty of space I have only one and I use it only infrequently. The Park-n-Move can be quite difficult to load, finicky to move around when loaded and because of the small wheels overly responsive to minor imperfections in the floor. Additionally, as previously mentioned, there is a significant risk of the bike coming off with unpleasant results. I now use the device mainly when I store bikes for friends and I want to get the bike as out of the way as possible. I’d give it a “C” minus for a grade, but I don’t know if the other dollies on the market are any better since I have no experience using them.

Two of your criticisms ‒ " difficult to load," and "finicky to move around when loaded because of the small wheels overly responsive to minor imperfections in the floor" are easily overcome. The third, "there is a significant risk of the bike coming off with unpleasant results" is the case with just about all of these devices at this price point.

But even when you get into the very expensive one that was suggested, it's necessary to use a strap to hold the bike into the wheel chock. Some won't, I realize. Just as many, with smooth garage floors won't follow my advice to secure the centerstand with a strap.

[henzilla]

I use it only because it was gifted to me and wanted to see what it would do for me...other than the long storage this particular bike is having in our shop, I will roll it in corner with old scissor lifts for cruisers,the two floor jacks, and the turntable someone else gifted me when the current resident goes home.

As mentioned, having to add height to use and strapping does not work for me...PITA

Folks have opinions and discussions all the time, no problem. Calling folks out because you think something is vague and not fulfilling comes across as a polytickal debate to me, hence the argument comment.

I'm through playing

[khittner]

Maybe the center stand dolly version you have is different, Beemerdood. I bought this off of Ebay: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Motorcycle-...lbV8BP&vxp=mtr The verbiage in the Ebay listing says that the device I bought has a load limit of 500-lbs, and based on the way it behaves with my RT on it, I tend to believe that figure. If you've got something more robust, that's also denominated a "Park-N-Move", YMMV.

[PGlaves]

Maybe the center stand dolly version you have is different, Beemerdood. I bought this off of Ebay: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Motorcycle-...lbV8BP&vxp=mtr The verbiage in the Ebay listing says that the device I bought has a load limit of 500-lbs, and based on the way it behaves with my RT on it, I tend to believe that figure. If you've got something more robust, that's also denominated a "Park-N-Move", YMMV.

I do believe that this link on eBay is to a knockoff of the actual Park-N-Move by the company Legal Speeding. The original Park-n-Move looks like this and has an 1,100 pound weight capacity according to the Legal Speeding web site.

[20774]

From the pictures, the dolly on ebay has substantially thinner steel used in it...probably one of the limits for the weight capacity.

[Friedle]

Enough Already! Time to put your dollies away for naptime, get out of your house and go for a big boy ride.

Friedle

[beemerdood]

As mentioned, having to add height to use and strapping does not work for me...PITA

To each their own. Seems to me as if those two things are like zipping up a jacket or fastening a chin strap, hardly a PITA, rather just another step in the process. We're talking literally 30‒45 seconds for both acts. Oh wait, I forgot to factor in removing the strap and picking up the magazine stack. Make that 60-90 seconds for a round trip! LOL. That is FAR LESS than if I were to pull in and then have to go back and forth for 2-3 minutes in a small area to park the bike. And while I'm out riding, the Park‒n‒Move is about 1' square to store, rather than a cumbersome device taking up 5-6 sq ft. I can shove it under another bike and it takes up zero extra floor space.

Folks have opinions and discussions all the time, no problem. Calling folks out

This is real simple. Omega Man made several comments that I did not understand. I asked what he meant. He bypassed my questions for reasons only he knows, so I asked them again.

because you think something is vague and not fulfilling comes across as a polytickal debate to me, hence the argument comment.

It's neither "polytickal [nor] argument[ative]." If we were standing face‒to‒face and you said something that I didn't understand, I'd ask for clarification. That's all that occurred here. Ascribing some other motivation, e.g. a "calling out [or] polytickal debate," is off‒base.

I'm through playing

Not "playing." just looking for information.

[beemerdood]

Maybe the center stand dolly version you have is different, Beemerdood. I bought this off of Ebay: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Motorcycle-...lbV8BP&vxp=mtr The verbiage in the Ebay listing says that the device I bought has a load limit of 500-lbs, and based on the way it behaves with my RT on it, I tend to believe that figure. If you've got something more robust, that's also denominated a "Park-N-Move", YMMV.

Khittner's Park‒n‒Move (probably a Chinese knockoff).

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My (trademarked) Park‒n‒Move.

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Yes, you're correct. The device that you have is NOT the Park‒n‒Move that I'm talking about. Had you posted a photo in your original message I'd have realized this immediately. Your statement about weight bearing capacity was a clue, but I missed it, thinking that you had made an error. I'm kinda shocked that you didn't see the difference between what you have and the photo that I posted and realize right then that what you have is NOT what I was referring to?! You even reposted the photos when you quoted me! Your device is OBVIOUSLY not the same as mine, as can easily be seen from the two photos I've included. How did you miss this?

AND, as if all that wasn't enough ‒ Your device has a weight limit of 500 pounds. Your 1984 RT's DRY weight is around 517lbs, over the limit by 17 lbs. Add in gas, oil, saddlebags, tools and you've SIGNIFICANTLY exceeded the max weight the manufacturer recommends. NO WONDER you have trouble moving your bike around on this knockoff!

The price difference on these two devices is $127. (Original $200. Knockoff $73.) Proving once again, that you get what you pay for.

[beemerdood]

I do believe that this link on eBay is to a knockoff of the actual Park-N-Move by the company Legal Speeding. The original Park-n-Move looks like this and has an 1,100 pound weight capacity according to the Legal Speeding web site.

Yes, again. The name "Park‒n‒Move" is Trademarked and the device is patented. Of course China does not recognize such niceties, and I'd bet that where khittner's device originates from.

[beemerdood]

From the pictures, the dolly on ebay has substantially thinner steel used in it...probably one of the limits for the weight capacity.

Not only is the steel thinner, but probably since it is, there is reinforcement on the knockoff on the underside of the bends where the casters reside. The original, probably since the platform is made of substantially thicker metal, does not have (or need) them. The casters on khittner's device are cheap, off‒the‒shelf models, with a nut and bolt securing them to platform. The casters on the original device are threaded into the platform so there is not a bolt protruding from the top of it. Also note, especially since khittner said "it wasn’t really very easy to move the bike around once it was on the thing, even on smooth concrete." that the casters on the REAL Park‒n‒Move are substantially larger than those on the knockoff. The caster bearings on the REAL device are shielded, where the ones on the knockoff are not. Either and both of these will certainly affect how well these devices roll on smooth surfaces.

Another difference is that on the original Park‒n‒Move each caster has its own lock. On the knockoff, there's a lever that looks like, when flipped over, it brings a some metal to bear against the ground, to lock the device and keep it from rolling around.

Looks like at least SOME of the criticism of the REAL Park‒n‒Move comes, because at least one other member is using a knockoff version of the original Park‒n‒Move.

I wonder henzilla, are you using the original or the knockoff?

BTW, my bike is parked outside today and the gardeners just left. Their last act is to use a leaf blower to blow debris and dust off my covered bike. The pressure from the leaf blower moved the bike 2"!

[khittner]

Just realized that I sound a bit like a salesperson here.

Stipulate.

[khittner]

I do believe that this link on eBay is to a knockoff of the actual Park-N-Move by the company Legal Speeding. The original Park-n-Move looks like this and has an 1,100 pound weight capacity according to the Legal Speeding web site.

Thanks, Paul. Alas, the knock-offs have better search optimization than Legal Speeding . . .

[khittner]

From the pictures, the dolly on ebay has substantially thinner steel used in it...probably one of the limits for the weight capacity.

Could be, Kurt, but now that I look around a bit at industrial suppliers, the money and load capacity in these widgets seem to be in the casters. The knock-off's thinner stamped steel plate doesn't bend under the weight of the RT, but it looks like one can (and probably has to) spend pretty good money for small-diameter, high-weight-capacity, stem casters.

[beemerdood]

Stipulate.

Slams me, but not a word of either admission or apology for saying that a top quality product had numerous problems that were due to the purchase and use of a cheap, knockoff product that he mistook for the top quality product.

Let's review, I provided a photograph of the product I was talking about in my first message. One would have to be almost blind not to recognize that the product I suggested was not the same as the one that you were using. Yours was cheaply put together and assembled from sub‒standard parts, yet you somehow missed those facts and based only on the (stolen trademark) name of the product, badmouthed the one that I recommended. As if that wasn't enough, you complained about the quality of your product (attributing them to the top quality product), telling us that "… it wasn’t really very easy to move the bike around once it was on the thing, even on smooth concrete." even though you knew, or should have known, that you had exceeded its recommended maximum weight, probably by 50-75 pounds or more. One should not expect a good outcome if one can't be bothered to follow the recommendations of the manufacturer.

When you fully described your device it was immediately apparent that you had made a gross error in comparing your unit to the device I had recommended. Once you made public the exact device that you were referring to, TWO other members, saw that obviously it was not the same device that I had recommended, but you still weren't sure. I asked how you managed to miss the rather obvious details, but instead of simply admitting your blunder, you took a cheap shot at me.

[beemerdood]

Thanks, Paul. Alas, the knock-offs have better search optimization than Legal Speeding . . .

Oddly when I searched Google for "park n move" the first FIVE links were to the device I recommended, made by Legal Speeding. The link to your product on Ebay, was SIXTH.

Searching for "motorcycle dolly" brings up the Harbor Freight "channel" device ahead of your device.

Searching for "device for moving a motorcycle" bring up some videos at the top of the search. The first is for the Harbor Freight "channel" device. The SECOND is for the Park‒n‒Move.

But no matter, one should realize that Ebay is full of cheap, poorly made knockoffs and you should have immediately recognized that the photo, supplied in my very first post in the thread, was NOT the same as your product. Instead, you diluted the thread, failed completely to provide useful information to the OP, (except that Ebay is a 'cautionary tale') and badmouthed a top quality product because you didn't do your research.

And finally, you purchased, and put to use, the knock off version of a superior product KNOWING THAT YOUR MOTORCYCLE'S DRY WEIGHT EXCEEDED ITS WEIGHT RECOMMENDATION! Then, you complained in this thread that it didn't move well, "even on smooth concrete." Maybe next time make sure that you're on the right track before posting?