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    Motorcycle Hypermiling?

    Is anyone a motorcycle hypermiler here? I wonder if I can get some tips; on my G650GS, I tend to average around 60 mpg, which is solely average, even though I shift at peak BSFC points (2500-3000 rpm) and time traffic lights.

    Of course, I could attempt burn and coast, but to be frank, that's too labor intensive and it's too distracting (and thus dangerous) on a motorcycle.

    I'm not totally ignorant as a hypermiler; with a Nissan Xterra, I've managed to get 22 mpg (20% above EPA rating).

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    Motorcycles are not very aerodynamic. Lots of wind resistance. We, on this forum, report all sorts of variations in fuel mileage on our bikes, but that is mostly from different wind conditions and different speeds. Never heard of anyone specifically "hypermiling" on a motorcycle. At least not since Craig Vetter came along and changed the whole industry.

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    Congratulations on getting a little better than typical fuel consumption for that model while probably destroying the bottom end of the engine in not too long a time. That engine is designed to operate in the 4k to 6k rpm band very nicely but at 2500 is lugging the engine whether it is herky jerky or not.
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    I'm not a hyper-miler, but I do keep track of my gas mileage to predict my expected range on trips. In my area with all the traffic we have, it really is a futile effort. I can get low to mid 50s in my pre-retirement commute...or I can get about 48 on the same commute when I sit at traffic lights. On trips, I'm usually getting mid-50s, though on back roads, I can often get in the low 60s. Much of that seems to be dependent on speed. If I keep it at around 55-60 mph on the back roads, I get much higher gas mileage than if I hit 70+ mph.

    Riding smoothly and simply enjoying the ride, is the most rewarding for me.

    If you really want to hyper-mile...get a Prius. My wife routinely gets about 69 mpg on hers.

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    Driving to get hyper-miles out of a bike is to me about as much fun as trying not to offend someone who is easily offended. Big on effort and small in payoff. If I needed better mileage, I'd buy a bike that gets better mileage. I bought a Honda NC700 for this reason and it literally bored me to tears. It is gone. I am with Paul on this. There is another thread going where the OP is looking to run the tallest gearing that will physically fit on the bike looking to run at uber-low RPM's. The way many people ride motorcycles, their bikes would last longer if the highest gear were missing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by daboo View Post
    If you really want to hyper-mile...get a Prius. My wife routinely gets about 69 mpg on hers.

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    That's very good for a regular Prius. Over the first 20K miles, my Prius Prime gets just above 89 mpg...but I cheat, I run on electric-only (EV mode) much of the time, especially around town and short trips because it is a plug-in hybrid with a large battery pack.

    For my bike, I get around 50 mpg on trips. I try to stay close to the speed limit. Some say that is impossible - just find a big truck doing your desired speed and tuck in either behind or in front. In front means less turbulence. Besides getting better mileage, your tires will last longer. My Anakee III's had almost 13K miles on them when I had them replaced, and I could have gotten another 1K miles out of the rear (but wanted new tires before the trip to Des Moines). I saw a post from one guy who lamented that his Anakee III's only last 6K miles. As they say, YMMV.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AKsuited View Post
    .....{snip] just find a big truck doing your desired speed and tuck in either behind or in front. In front means less turbulence.....{snip}
    I have heard this before
    Screwing around in the front of a truck or in the rear is just asking to be road kill.
    A little lite reading on this subject- https://www.quora.com/Why-is-draftin...ers-dislike-it

    As for this Hypermiling stuff........Lets try not to foul up traffic more that it is. If your going to experiment with some driving technique that the rest of the road doesn't enjoy, please stay far right.......Perhaps with some sort of emergency light as extra identification.
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    Hyper-miling on motorcycles is like the ladies of a brothel competing to see who is the most virtuous. It is a pointless endeavor that defeats the purpose.
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    Quote Originally Posted by akbeemer View Post
    Hyper-miling on motorcycles is like the ladies of a brothel competing to see who is the most virtuous. It is a pointless endeavor that defeats the purpose.
    I wish there was a "Like" button here. Well put.

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    Quote Originally Posted by akbeemer View Post
    Hyper-miling on motorcycles is like the ladies of a brothel competing to see who is the most virtuous. It is a pointless endeavor that defeats the purpose.
    +1 Kevin! Hyper-miling on a motorcycle is an oxymoron.
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    Quote Originally Posted by akbeemer View Post
    Hyper-miling on motorcycles is like the ladies of a brothel competing to see who is the most virtuous. It is a pointless endeavor that defeats the purpose.
    Precisely!

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    Quote Originally Posted by akbeemer View Post
    Hyper-miling on motorcycles is like the ladies of a brothel competing to see who is the most virtuous. It is a pointless endeavor that defeats the purpose.
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    More like a group of fat girls competing to be most virtuous, tbh. Most motorcycles get better fuel economy than cagers, due to lighter weight, although greater coefficient of drag. Fully-faired Hondas like the CTX700 can beat out Priuses. The G650GS was the most fuel efficient middle-weight bike BMW had, and I had gotten tired of my CBR250R ABS deathtrap.

    Given that BMW sells to a higher market segment than most motorcycle companies, and that BMW gets more than its fair share of people in the finance industry, having bikes for people concerned with fuel economy is not a bad idea. Of course, BMW seems to be going more the electric scooter route to satisfy that market, and for the greenies, electric is more in than hybrid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Inst View Post
    for the greenies, electric is more in than hybrid.
    But not practical for most people. With my plug-in hybrid I get fantastic mpg's but no restriction on range. Living in a rural area, many of my trips are simply too long for an electric vehicle and I am not about to own an additional vehicle to be more green than I already am. Plug-in hybrid is the sensible choice if you want to be green.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Inst View Post
    More like a group of fat girls competing to be most virtuous, tbh. Most motorcycles get better fuel economy than cagers, due to lighter weight, although greater coefficient of drag. Fully-faired Hondas like the CTX700 can beat out Priuses. The G650GS was the most fuel efficient middle-weight bike BMW had, and I had gotten tired of my CBR250R ABS deathtrap.

    Given that BMW sells to a higher market segment than most motorcycle companies, and that BMW gets more than its fair share of people in the finance industry, having bikes for people concerned with fuel economy is not a bad idea. Of course, BMW seems to be going more the electric scooter route to satisfy that market, and for the greenies, electric is more in than hybrid.
    I use to commute 135 miles per day on my older Honda Silverwing (shaft drive, transverse twin), so I spent a lot of time thinking and checking to see what would make a difference in increasing MPG. My right wrist was the biggest thing that I could control. On that bike, taking off the side bags didn't make much difference, nor did the top box. I assume that you've covered your bases already with the easy stuff? Good tire pressure, air filter, spark plugs, etc.? I'd also look at removing any excess weight that you can live without - passenger pegs, unused mounting brackets. Your windshield choice will also have big consequences. Also, have you dropped all the weight that you can too?
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