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    Help identifying year and model of the bike on the picture

    Hello,

    I would appreciate if someone would help me identify the year and model of the bike #16 from the picture.

    bmw.jpg

    All I know for sure is that it is BMW and older than 1973 as that was the year my father, who is riding it, died.

    Thanks, Nikola

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    Nicola,

    I don't think #16 is a BMW. #17 is — the viewer can see the horizontally-opposed cylinders.

    While the tank on #16 appears to have a BMW roundel, the motor looks like an inclined-forward design, either with one cylinder (and two exhaust pipes) or two cylinders. Back in the 30s-60s, BMW's singles had only vertical cylinders, and each had only one exhaust pipe. Also, the light color (perhaps chrome or other metal) on the side of the tank is not a BMW motif.

    All in all, I think someone fastened the roundel to a bike from another manufacturer.
    David Brick
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    Bike # 17 is a BMW, probably mid 50s R 51 0r R 67; bike # 16 doesn't appear to be a BMW. #16 might be a Jawa, MZ, or CZ bike.

    Friedle
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    David, I think the tank is a BMW "parade" model authority tank. Those tanks had the roundel and the sides were polished chrome finish. Judging from the pistols and leather jackets, I think there is a good likelihood these riders are some sort of LEOs.

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    Maybe another engine transplanted into a BMW frame? But then again, it appears the frame is a single downtube which also isn't one of BMW's trademarks.
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    Yes, my father was police officer in former Yugoslavia and bike is from that region.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Friedle View Post
    David, I think the tank is a BMW "parade" model authority tank. Those tanks had the roundel and the sides were polished chrome finish. Judging from the pistols and leather jackets, I think there is a good likelihood these riders are some sort of LEOs.
    Thanks, Friedle, I didn't know about parade tanks.
    Even with a parade tank, 'though, the engine design says "not a BMW."
    David Brick
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    I think the bike on the left is a Jawa. The big round lower case matches fairly well.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jawa_350
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    bmw.jpg
    I was thinking Jawa twin also, due to the crankcase shape, and you can see the bits of the right side header, but the head looks more like a four stroke. If I zoom the picture, I can almost convince myself that the tank emblem is not a roundel, but more of a shield shape - but that does not help as I cannot find a matching motorcycle logo...

    I thought I was close with this 1953 Jawa 500, but the cylinders look too big, and there are differences in the headlight, front fender, and brake.
    Larry
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    With the help from all the comments I think I found that manufacturer is Puch I am not sure about the model. I found another picture of the bike that looks the same to me:

    puch.jpg

    and model listed is Puch 250. Here is the logo:

    Puch_logo.png

    Thank you all for your help.

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    The Puch looks much better as a match. The bend in the header is essentially the same. And the logo "borrows" some of the BMW features.
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    I do believe you've found it. There are a couple differences between the pictures, don't know if they are different bikes from a pool or just changes to the bike over time.(License plate, carb cover, in the second pic)
    Larry
    2006 R1200RT

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