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    beat the dead horse - Blues with Blue tooth

    I have read and read on the how to and what works, but more on how it doesn't work. I cant get my Sena10 to reliably connect to the 1600B ? Seems it is always a struggle and I am un pairing and re-pairing the head set. Cant get my GPS to sync in for some crazy reason either ? I can however get my Enacfire ear buds to pair but they don't have a separate volume and are full on. Clearly the volume control on the bike will not control the output to the ear buds which is a real bummer- the earbuds have much better sound quality.
    No matter what I do I can not get the motorcycle speakers to work ? Hit the dial it just says volume off ? Speakers on the bike with a full face helmet are a waste anyhow IMO.
    -So is there was way to control volume with ear buds and the motorcycle wheel ?
    - How do I turn my speakers back on ?
    - is the Sena 10 even worth the effort on a 2018 1600B ? I read a 20 or 30 is more compatible ?
    - truth is I would rather just get my ear buds to work with the radio and GPS (and my phone if possible) and be able to control volume through the dial. I have been riding motorcycles for 45 years and BMW loyal for over 30. It amazes me that on a top of the line bike they still cant get a decent Bluetooth set up. Its not a huge problem as I dont have to have tunes, it just makes a long ride a little more pleasurable sometimes. Plus I hate to pay 30K for a bike and only have 80% work proper.

    That's my gripe of the day- maybe tomorrow I will get on my exhaust rant

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    If the K1600 is similar to the R1200RT, then this video may be useful -


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    That was helpful for sure. I am going to give it a whirl. I still would rather use the earbuds if I could get volume control. The video certainly address's the sound sharing when having a passenger which has been a challenge for many.
    thank you

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    A much less expensive alternative is to obtain a bluetooth receiver and plug your favorite earbuds into that. I've done this; the bluetooth receiver goes into a pocket and the earbuds in my ear. I favor sound-isolating earbuds; normally I wear ear plugs. Links follow for some of the equipment that I have had good success with.

    Both of these bluetooth receivers have adjustable volume - set on low before pairing with the BMW bluetooth!
    https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1

    https://www.amazon.com/Mpow-Bluetoot...34EETZP184KCYE

    Earbud preferences vary widely. My favorites were the Eymotic ER6 earbuds, but these are no longer available.
    https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1

    https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1


    Alas, I have found the quality of the music coming from bmw's bluetooth (2018 RT) to be poor. I have good quality sound when paired with my phone, but when paired with the bike's bluetooth the sound quality is poor (scratchy, frequently broken-up). It seems that others have observed similarly poor audio with the BMW bluetooth implementation. Following is an alternative to improve the bluetooth audio sound quality -

    There are a couple of YouTube videos that clearly illustrate how to use the speaker outputs to drive a Sena Bluetooth transmitter and have much improved sound. Links follow -

    YouTube

    BMW K1600/R1200 Bluetooth audio upgrade Part 1



    YouTube

    BMW K1600/R1200 Bluetooth audio upgrade Part 2


    Components used in these videos are:

    Motochello audio speaker bridge
    https://www.motochello.com/audio-speaker-bridge/


    Sena SM10 dual stream stereo bluetooth transmitter
    https://www.sena.com/product/sm10/

    Motopower Mini USB Outlet

    It was indicated elsewhere that one could use BMW repair plugs "83 30 0 413 580" and "83 30 0 413 581" to make an adapter cable and thus avoid needing to splice and cut into the existing wiring harness. A check with the MAXBMW on-line parts fiche shows -

    83300413580 REPAIR PLUG, 8-POLE / 3-POLE - NO. 611651 $32.27
    Function: 8-pin/3-pin for anti-theft alarm control unit, power supply.
    Part Thumbnail Part Thumbnail

    83300413581 REPAIR PLUG, 8-PIN - NO. 611652 $25.51
    Function: 8-pin for main plug on anti-theft alarm control unit.
    Last edited by robsryder; 05-18-2018 at 08:27 PM.

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    Here is a link to a related discussion on a different forum. A conclusion is that use of an audio bridge (e.g., Motochello or Autocom) would be advantageous.

    http://www.bmwlt.com/forums/rt-serie...-pictures.html

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    Before anyone runs out and purchases the BMW 8-pin plugs to avoid having to cut into their audio wiring harness, let me relate my recent findings.

    The male 8-pin plug (part ending in 580) is a good fit into the Alpine audio unit. Alas, the female 8-pin plug (part ending in 581) "almost" fits into the existing male
    8-pin plug (which has been unplugged from the Alpine audio unit).

    The two BMW plugs (580 and 581) fit nicely together. I don't see at present what is causing the interference that prevents 581 from fitting to the wiring harness plug.

    Bummer!

    I would be keen to hear it someone has actually come up with a solution or found an alternate plug that fits.

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    I did the K1600 Bluetooth audio upgrade a couple of years ago and

    I did the K1600 Bluetooth audio upgrade a couple of years ago and now itís seamless. A couple of hours and some $$ boom like it should be from the factory.
    Quote Originally Posted by robsryder View Post
    A much less expensive alternative is to obtain a bluetooth receiver and plug your favorite earbuds into that. I've done this; the bluetooth receiver goes into a pocket and the earbuds in my ear. I favor sound-isolating earbuds; normally I wear ear plugs. Links follow for some of the equipment that I have had good success with.

    Both of these bluetooth receivers have adjustable volume - set on low before pairing with the BMW bluetooth!
    https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1

    https://www.amazon.com/Mpow-Bluetoot...34EETZP184KCYE

    Earbud preferences vary widely. My favorites were the Eymotic ER6 earbuds, but these are no longer available.
    https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1

    https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1


    Alas, I have found the quality of the music coming from bmw's bluetooth (2018 RT) to be poor. I have good quality sound when paired with my phone, but when paired with the bike's bluetooth the sound quality is poor (scratchy, frequently broken-up). It seems that others have observed similarly poor audio with the BMW bluetooth implementation. Following is an alternative to improve the bluetooth audio sound quality -

    There are a couple of YouTube videos that clearly illustrate how to use the speaker outputs to drive a Sena Bluetooth transmitter and have much improved sound. Links follow -

    YouTube

    BMW K1600/R1200 Bluetooth audio upgrade Part 1



    YouTube

    BMW K1600/R1200 Bluetooth audio upgrade Part 2


    Components used in these videos are:

    Motochello audio speaker bridge
    https://www.motochello.com/audio-speaker-bridge/


    Sena SM10 dual stream stereo bluetooth transmitter
    https://www.sena.com/product/sm10/

    Motopower Mini USB Outlet

    It was indicated elsewhere that one could use BMW repair plugs "83 30 0 413 580" and "83 30 0 413 581" to make an adapter cable and thus avoid needing to splice and cut into the existing wiring harness. A check with the MAXBMW on-line parts fiche shows -

    83300413580 REPAIR PLUG, 8-POLE / 3-POLE - NO. 611651 $32.27
    Function: 8-pin/3-pin for anti-theft alarm control unit, power supply.
    Part Thumbnail Part Thumbnail

    83300413581 REPAIR PLUG, 8-PIN - NO. 611652 $25.51
    Function: 8-pin for main plug on anti-theft alarm control unit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by robsryder View Post
    If the K1600 is similar to the R1200RT, then this video may be useful -
    Video was exactly what I needed thanks!! For anyone else having issues: make sure you pair your GPS as a GPS as per the instructions (hitting volume after pairing request to tell Cardo it's GPS).

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    Reviving this thread - does anyone have a reference chart for the yellow wire numbers to the color coded wires on the stereo?
    Also, I read somewhere else that a ground loop isolator is needed to suppress engine noise introduction into the audio.
    Thanks much in advance!
    Last edited by picard; 05-23-2019 at 08:37 PM. Reason: typo
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    Quote Originally Posted by picard View Post
    Reviving this thread - does anyone have a reference chart for the yellow wire numbers to the color coded wires on the stereo?
    Also, I read somewhere else that a ground loop isolator is needed to suppress engine noise introduction into the audio.
    Thanks much in advance!
    I think I saw the cheat sheet I used this weekend. I either saw it and pitched it because I concluded I was done with it or filed it away with the K1600 stuff. I'll take a peek at home and see if I can find it.
    2016 K1600GT

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    Quote Originally Posted by picard View Post
    Reviving this thread - does anyone have a reference chart for the yellow wire numbers to the color coded wires on the stereo?
    Also, I read somewhere else that a ground loop isolator is needed to suppress engine noise introduction into the audio.
    Thanks much in advance!
    I did not keep the colors on the Alpine to yellow wires on BMW accessory plug as intended. However, take a peek at post 8 and 9 in this thread. Post 8 reminds us that you need to locate where these wires are oriented on the female plug going into the Alpine unit:

    Across the top of the female plug:
    Yellow with Brown
    Yellow with Red
    Brown
    Red with Green

    Across the bottom of the female plug:
    Blue
    Blue with Red
    White with Black
    White with Brown

    Also take a peek at Motochello's instructions here: https://www.motochello.com/wp-conten...nstall-1cw.pdf.

    Hopefully this gives you enough to install.
    2016 K1600GT

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    Im just trying to get this squared away in my head... What job is the Montecello bridge performing?

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    Quote Originally Posted by picard View Post
    Reviving this thread - does anyone have a reference chart for the yellow wire numbers to the color coded wires on the stereo?
    Also, I read somewhere else that a ground loop isolator is needed to suppress engine noise introduction into the audio.
    Thanks much in advance!
    I did end up finding that chart and here it is.
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    2016 K1600GT

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    Quote Originally Posted by robsryder View Post
    If the K1600 is similar to the R1200RT, then this video may be useful -

    The video mentions BT works "very well". Not true, audio quality from BMW's BT module (which is probably the first version of BT ever invented) is really bad.

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