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    2015 RT rear brake pad replacement-UPDATE

    My rear brake pads are going to need to be replaced soon. Although why they're wearing out before my front ones is beyond me. And no, it's not because my foot is gently depressing the brake pedal while I'm riding. The mechanic suggested that, so I double checked my foot position a few times. Always away from the pedal.

    Anyway, I'd like to replace the pads myself. Having never done that on this bike, I'm trying to find some video instruction and I'm coming up empty.

    Any suggestions? And is there any special things of which I should be aware before attempting this?
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    Quote Originally Posted by captainmarko View Post
    Although why they're wearing out before my front ones is beyond me.
    All of our bikes with partially integrated brakes wore the back pads faster than the front.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lee View Post
    All of our bikes with partially integrated brakes wore the back pads faster than the front.
    Wow. I did not know that.

    Thanks, Lee!
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    Quote Originally Posted by captainmarko View Post
    My rear brake pads are going to need to be replaced soon. Although why they're wearing out before my front ones is beyond me. And no, it's not because my foot is gently depressing the brake pedal while I'm riding. The mechanic suggested that, so I double checked my foot position a few times. Always away from the pedal.

    Anyway, I'd like to replace the pads myself. Having never done that on this bike, I'm trying to find some video instruction and I'm coming up empty.

    Any suggestions? And is there any special things of which I should be aware before attempting this?
    My backs went first too, I will get 1 set of front to 2 maybe 3 sets of rear. Yea its strange but that's the way it is. Simple install, I find it easier to remove the caliper and push the pistons back, remove the retaining clips and pull the pin the pads will come out. BMW recommends a thin lubrication of both surfaces of the brake pad with Never Seez Compound (brake-pad paste) part # 83 19 2 158 852. I'm using EBC pads

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    Specifically talking OEM pads, the rear pads are a different material than the front pads and are much softer. Thus they wear faster.
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    This video can help. The GS and the RT are almost the same except you won't have the fender guard to remove. The correct EBC pads for the rear are EBC FA 2092 HH.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xAuHBRJI_Po

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    Quote Originally Posted by strataj View Post
    BMW recommends a thin lubrication of both surfaces of the brake pad with Never Seez Compound (brake-pad paste) part # 83 19 2 158 852.
    Will any anti-seize compound work or does it have to be Never Seez?
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    Quote Originally Posted by PGlaves View Post
    Specifically talking OEM pads, the rear pads are a different material than the front pads and are much softer. Thus they wear faster.
    Can one change to a harder material for the rear pads?
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    Quote Originally Posted by WalterK75 View Post
    Can one change to a harder material for the rear pads?
    Yes. I personally like EBC "HH" pads. They are sintered metalic pads, OEM are organic I think.

    As a side note, those two letters represent friction coefficients and resistance to brake fade - the first letter at 250 degrees F and the second letter at 600 degrees F.

    The last time I checked the ratings for OEM pads they were FG rated. HH are higher friction pads.

    See: http://faculty.ccbcmd.edu/~smacadof/DOTPadCodes.htm
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    I have a 2015 GSA which has 68,000 miles on the clock. I have replaced the rear brakes twice, once at 30,000 and again at 64,000. The second and third sets were EBC HH pads. I have not replaced the OEM front brake pads yet and they have about 40% remaining. This is the only BMW I have owned that has had this disparity in brake wear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 146023 View Post
    I have a 2015 GSA which has 68,000 miles on the clock. I have replaced the rear brakes twice, once at 30,000 and again at 64,000. The second and third sets were EBC HH pads. I have not replaced the OEM front brake pads yet and they have about 40% remaining. This is the only BMW I have owned that has had this disparity in brake wear.
    My 2005 RT went through rear pads faster than front ones. i'm assuming my 2016 will do the same.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 146023 View Post
    I have a 2015 GSA which has 68,000 miles on the clock. I have replaced the rear brakes twice, once at 30,000 and again at 64,000. The second and third sets were EBC HH pads. I have not replaced the OEM front brake pads yet and they have about 40% remaining. This is the only BMW I have owned that has had this disparity in brake wear.
    Voni's '94 R1100RS took three rear sets to one front set. Approximately 20K on rears and 60K on fronts, and is not a rear brake dragger at all.
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    Okay, I did this job yesterday.

    Couldn't BELIEVE how easy it was. It literally took me longer to find the torque values on the internet than it did the put new pads in.

    Thanks for all the input, guys! Put the EBC pads that were listed by an earlier response.
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    This has been a common occurrence for some time now, and not just with bikes but with cars (my Lincoln MKZ) and SUVs (my Touareg TDi) are both that way as well.

    I believe that the reason for it isn't pad material, but that with the advent of the more sophisticated ABS over the past decade+, and higher-speed ABS computer reaction times, etc., that the braking systems are now designed for the rear brakes to be applied a split-second before the fronts are engaged. This is the reverse of what it used to be. The benefit of having the rear(s) applied just a hair before the fronts is supposed to be less abrupt weight transfer and therefore better initial traction/braking from the front. The downside is that because the systems are integrated whenever we use the brakes lightly (perhaps 90%+ of the time for even spirted riders) the rears are actually getting more usage.

    If you have a newer GT 20xx?+), GS (2013+) or RT (2017+) that will display all the braking info such as how many gear shifts, the number of times the front brakes have been applied and the rears, what you will see is that the system shows that the rear brakes are applied more often than the fronts. I've seen this on two different bikes. My "guess" is that is is due to those very light front-brake level applications that most of us use from time-to-time to scrub just a little speed and the rears are being applied (via the integrated system) but the fronts are not.

    A good example of why this would be beneficial is how you setup most brake balance systems on a trailer. The ideal setup with the trailer brake controller is to have the trailer brakes come on just a fraction prior to the tow-vehicle brakes, but have them be applied just a slightly less. Again, my understanding is that such a process provides the most stability for towing, and my anecdotal experience would bear that out.
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