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    It's not about California highways. It's about urban highways in general.

    My preference is to avoid them, and get to rural locations and roads as quickly as possible. There's not a lot of joy to be found riding urban highways anyway, so I seek the open spaces where the scenery is better, and the risks of bad drivers and road debris is much less.
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    Exclamation Freeways is Free!

    The issue here is the freeways more than anything else.
    I live off the 14 Fwy in north LA County and I wouldn't commute down south for any amount of money.
    It's not that it's just congested, but the drivers are down right combative.

    Hers' a little ditty on the 14 Fwy just last year, and this is on a good day!
    Road rage' motorcyclist kicks car causing dramatic pile-up video

    Then there are those younger drivers that have no idea what their little modern cars will do at 85mph.
    Every see one get some air underneath or come to the end of their braking ability. Yeah kids they fly and the roll...

    I don't think they have drivers training required anymore, either in high school or anywhere else.
    Simple things like signalling 100 feet BEFORE turning or changing lanes.
    Following 10 feet for every car length, the simple stuff. Your turn signal isn't your steering wheel.
    Signals? What's signals?

    I hate driving in states like Washington where everyone brakes like mad if the see one brakelight.
    No lane splitting allowed.

    Honestly I don't know which is worse...
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    Quote Originally Posted by rapiddog View Post
    The issue here is the freeways more than anything else.
    I live off the 14 Fwy in north LA County and I wouldn't commute down south for any amount of money.
    It's not that it's just congested, but the drivers are down right combative..
    Me too! I'm in Santa Clarita and I work from home. The thought of commuting down the 405 is depressing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by alegerlotz View Post
    Me too! I'm in Santa Clarita and I work from home. The thought of commuting down the 405 is depressing.
    Yeah it's nuts as you well know. I stopped commuting to Palmhell years ago. Just not worth the riding odds in my mind.
    And that's just going north 20 minutes!
    I live in Acton.
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    You guys sure make the area sound attractive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PGlaves View Post
    You guys sure make the area sound attractive.
    There is amazing riding all around, its just heading down to LA that is a highway mess.

    Angeles Crest Highway and the surrounding area is great, as is RT 33 through Ojai and the riding in that area. Then there's the PCH, and a couple of hours away is the Sequoia National Forrest, etc...

    5 minutes from my house I can be carving through canyons and not pass another car for a long time.
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    It's called, "Too many vehicles, too little concrete". SoCal is a perfect example of how you can't pave your way out of congestion. When every other vehicle has a single occupant, you're screwed. Traffic wasn't as bad there, late 60's/early 70's, but anyone recall bright yellow skies and irritated eyes? At least now you may die of old age on the Ventura Freeway but you won't expire due to respiratory failure.

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    Sounds like there were good old days.

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    OK - back on the theme of this post however it isn't going to help most of you.

    In good old down under in the State of Queensland there was so much rubbish falling off SUV's (we actually call them utes) tools, ladders, mattresses

    https://www.facebook.com/7NewsBrisba...9285849750929/

    and the like that the Government passed laws stating that all open top vehicles (except sports cars) must have a net placed over any contents to prevent them being launched into the air.
    Failure to do so, for any reason is a $650 on the spot fine.
    Sale of cargo nets went ballistic.
    A.

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    The road South of my town say "no service for 70 miles"! I ride South

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    Zip to Zap??

    Quote Originally Posted by PGlaves View Post
    Western North Dakota was nice - until the Bakken Formation was discovered. There remain nice parts, but there is a massive amount of environmental and social destruction. But I'm old enough to remember the Zip to Zap. Lock up your daughters, the man-camps are coming.
    I had to google it. That was the year I graduated high school. Also the year of Woodstock.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zip_to_Zap
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