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    HA Search "electrolyte"on Goog and find batteries: nononono I want the DRINK

    I've been using Squincher which someone here recommended, small packets, tastes good, seems to work, just dump it in water. Before I order more I'm wondering if anyone here has done more research than I and has a better packable, effective, reasonably priced product that works. I SEEM to have fewer cramps, more alertness, better endurance when I use it throughout the day.
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    No doubt it’s good to stay hydrated whether one realizes they have been sweating or not. It seems that staying somewhat in balance is considerably better than trying to make up for sweating- all at once. The Squincher you mentioned is popular through the construction industry as is Gatorade.
    My preference is the large size Gatorade cut 50% with water and either frozen or, the top being large, filled with ice cubes in place of added water.
    Good research such as “Too much electrolytes” may give you some more to consider.
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    or the powder....

    I buy and use the powder form of Gatorade. You can mix it in the strength you prefer. Myself, I like it diluted to limit my sugar intake.

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    Well, looking them both over, the decision goes to Sqwincher. Its formulation is close enough to Gatorade (less sodium but we get salt everywhere else!) I base my choice solely on the packability of the single serve packs of Sqwincher. They can go in an already filled tank bag, scattered in other places pockets etc. At least that's what i'm thinking NOW...

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    We mix 5 gallons of Squicher every morning for the crews; usually a second batch by noon. We pick it up at our local "White Cap" construction supply outlet.

    But here's the webpage if you want to compare price. >>> https://www.whitecap.com/shop/Search...ce:&pageSize:&

    edit - looks like "20 oz. singles" are about $22 / 50 pack ( $.45 per serving )
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    My day job is as an Exercise Specialist, so I will offer my humble opinion, take it for what it's worth. I will note that most people are chronically dehydrated, so adding in some additional water (note I said some, not an extra 3 gallons each day!) would probably benefit most people.

    I would do some more research into whether you actually need to supplement with additional electrolytes.

    The latest research seems to be trending to they are not needed for the everyday individual. Most people consume enough through a balanced diet (especially sodium!). Nutrition research in general is highly-swayed by nutritional companies sponsoring "research." For the typical motorcyclist riding a couple hours, even during a hot day, probably doesn't need additional electrolytes, sugar, or other crap (other than consuming enough water).

    I'm aligned with Dr. Tim Noakes who says drink to thirst periodically throughout the day. Outside of endurance competitions, I'm highly suspect of the average person hyper-hydrating themselves into a problem.

    Remember that the body also needs a full spectrum of electrolytes including sodium, potassium, magnesium, manganese, etc. Also, the amount of sugar in many of these drinks are quite high, this effects the osmolality of the drink too. A super-sugary drink may actually pull water out of your body to aid in digestion before it replenishes you. Also, for each 1 gram of carbohydrate stored in the body, you need an additional 3 grams of water. When riding a motorcycle, whether on the highway or back roads, your body is primary utilizing fat for fuel, so there is no need to consume any additional carbohydrates.

    I know that I've come across some research involving flavored, non-sugared water - causing people to consume more liquid (a good thing). I also know that consuming it out of a "fun" container, such as a Camelbak, can also promote people drinking more fluid.

    Therefore, if you choose to consume a beverage, I would look for one that contains low amounts of balanced electrolytes (or no amounts of electrolytes), low or no sugar, no other junk (artificial stuff), and a taste that you actually like. A tablet-based drink, like Nuun, may be what you're looking for.


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    Quote Originally Posted by drneo66 View Post
    My day job is as an Exercise Specialist, so I will offer my humble opinion, take it for what it's worth. I will note that most people are chronically dehydrated, so adding in some additional water (note I said some, not an extra 3 gallons each day!) would probably benefit most people.

    I would do some more research into whether you actually need to supplement with additional electrolytes.

    The latest research seems to be trending to they are not needed for the everyday individual. Most people consume enough through a balanced diet (especially sodium!). Nutrition research in general is highly-swayed by nutritional companies sponsoring "research." For the typical motorcyclist riding a couple hours, even during a hot day, probably doesn't need additional electrolytes, sugar, or other crap (other than consuming enough water).

    I'm aligned with Dr. Tim Noakes who says drink to thirst periodically throughout the day. Outside of endurance competitions, I'm highly suspect of the average person hyper-hydrating themselves into a problem.

    Remember that the body also needs a full spectrum of electrolytes including sodium, potassium, magnesium, manganese, etc. Also, the amount of sugar in many of these drinks are quite high, this effects the osmolality of the drink too. A super-sugary drink may actually pull water out of your body to aid in digestion before it replenishes you. Also, for each 1 gram of carbohydrate stored in the body, you need an additional 3 grams of water. When riding a motorcycle, whether on the highway or back roads, your body is primary utilizing fat for fuel, so there is no need to consume any additional carbohydrates.

    I know that I've come across some research involving flavored, non-sugared water - causing people to consume more liquid (a good thing). I also know that consuming it out of a "fun" container, such as a Camelbak, can also promote people drinking more fluid.

    Therefore, if you choose to consume a beverage, I would look for one that contains low amounts of balanced electrolytes (or no amounts of electrolytes), low or no sugar, no other junk (artificial stuff), and a taste that you actually like. A tablet-based drink, like Nuun, may be what you're looking for.


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    Thanks. That does put the electrolyte fad into a good perspective. My concern isn't in regards to my typical riding or level of exertion. Conscious intake of adequate fluid has helped with leg cramps and general hydration. I am preparing for a 2 week trip, mostly long days in the saddle, and (if it matters) I'm 72 years old. Last year (when I was a mere 71) on a similar trip, I found that these drinks seemed to provide a noticeable boost in alertness and endurance- they were sugar free so I can't ascribe it to sugar, I stayed hydrated so I can't ascribe it to water alone...that leaves psychology and electrolyte drink! It may have been the former, or not. Your response though will encourage me to not just guzzle it all summer and will probably moderate my intake on this trip- so if nothing else you've saved me a few bucks! Thanks for the lesson.

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