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    Blue tooth for RT

    I have a 2013 R1200RT with the factory audio system! Which is the better Bluetooth system, Cardo/Scala, or Sena for my helmets?
    I use a Nolan modular helmet and my wife a Shoei Full Coverage helmet! Whatever I buy, it needs to retrofit in these helmets and
    pair with the Nav IV
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    Dress for fall & avoid it AlanColes's Avatar
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    For the most part it will come down to user preference and familiarity.

    Having said that, Sena has far deeper roots in the technology and is growing and expanding its line far more rapidly than Cardo, which would suggest that they would be the way to go.

    Schuberth has switched from always using Cardo to using Sena. Shoei's new Neotec II is designed to integrate with a Sena internal system, etc.

    I can't speak to Cardo's newer systems regarding usability, but part of my decision, some years ago, to use Sena was that it was much, much, easier to use with gloves on than the Cardo of the day. This has become a little less significant with the advent of better voice-activated commands, and remotes like the two Sena options, but I like to have a unit that is easily controlled with a gloved hand.

    Also, Sena was the first to provide good cross-brand connectivity, but from what I've heard, Cardo has stepped up in that area now as well.

    Sorry to not be definitive but both seem to be very good working units now.
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    You will not be able to use a Sena clamp on mounting on a Nolan 104, but you can use the stick-on mounting system. I have done so on several 104s of mine and my wife's. I like to stick it on and clamp it over night. Been through a lot of rain and miles and no problem doing so. If you change helmets you can buy a new mounting piece very reasonably. I have not seen the the new Nolan 100-5 but it looks like it will work well also.
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    Dress for fall & avoid it AlanColes's Avatar
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    I too have used the Sena adhesive mounts on both the Nolans I've had without issue. You need to use the adhesive on most Nolans and a few other brands because of the shape/thickness of the lower lip of the helmet where you place the mount.

    As Bob mentioned, apply good pressure for at least a few hours, and also before mounting, clean surface with a 50/50 mixture of isopropyl alcohol and water. This helps to get a really good bond. Like Bob, I've run through torrential downpours without issue. One helmet has just aged-out and has had a Sena mount attached to it with the adhesive attached as described above and no problem whatsoever.
    Regards, Alan - President BMWONS - BMWMOA/BMWRA/BMWONS/Airheads
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    The Sena clamp mount for the SMH10 (and my current 10c) CAN be installed on a Nolan N-104...Iíve done it. It requires a bit of surgery to the helmet but Iím completely satisfied with the results.

    Thereís a writeup on one way to do it here:
    http://www.life2wheels.com/2014/03/p...ena-smh10.html

    Ride safe!


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    I've been super thrilled with my Sena 20s. I've actually moved it between helmets with no problems. Excellent product.

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    I also have used the Sena adhesive mount on my Nolan N104 for many thousands of miles with no problem.

    Good luck connecting the BMW factory Bluetooth to the Sena though. Many have tried and most have failed getting a consistent connection. I gave up and now use a Sena SM10 adapter with a wire connected to the speaker wires of the factory radio. This consistently links the SMH10 to the bikes system.

    https://www.sena.com/product/sm10/
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