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    Concensus on most reliable years/models

    With the vast knowledge base here, I'd like to hear what the more seasoned members believe to be the most reliable, trouble free Bimmer overall, in their experience.

    Model, years etc. where there are LESS known issues, recalls etc.

    I'm thinking of trading or just outright buying another Bimmer [ used ] and am looking at the GS's, the GT's and the RT's. I'm a little uncomfortable on the 2007 K1200gt's seat height as I'm 5'9" with a 30" inseam [ though the pants always say 32 ].

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    Brownie,
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    Are we talking Bimmers or Beemers? There is a difference!

    I think you're going to have a tough time defining reliable. Plus one person's issues with a particular model might be no big deal to someone else.
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    Reliable?

    Quote Originally Posted by brownie0486 View Post
    With the vast knowledge base here, I'd like to hear what the more seasoned members believe to be the most reliable, trouble free Bimmer overall, in their experience.

    Model, years etc. where there are LESS known issues, recalls etc.

    I'm thinking of trading or just outright buying another Bimmer [ used ] and am looking at the GS's, the GT's and the RT's. I'm a little uncomfortable on the 2007 K1200gt's seat height as I'm 5'9" with a 30" inseam [ though the pants always say 32 ].

    Thanks

    Brownie,
    who will be heading to Hawthorne, California this Friday for the "live to ride" one day training course with Hawthorne motor officers.
    Two owners can own the same model and have a different interpretation of what reliable means. Its like trying to define quality. You need something to compare it to.

    I've been extremely satisfied with every BMW I've owned. They've been mostly trouble free and I've logged over 300,000 miles on them.

    Harley owners, Honda owers, etc., etc, can all make similar claims I'm guessing.

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    Least troublesome - K75 from 1986-1995.

    Reliable - R1100 Oilhead models.

    Best late model bikes: R1200 "wet head" water cooled.

    Most troublesome = the more gadgets and gizmos to go wrong will go wrong.

    YMMV
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    Quote Originally Posted by 20774 View Post
    Are we talking Bimmers or Beemers? There is a difference!

    I think you're going to have a tough time defining reliable. Plus one person's issues with a particular model might be no big deal to someone else.
    I was under the impression that bimmers referred to motors and beamers referred to caged. Is this distinction wrong?

    Defining reliable for me is "trouble free", with less recalls/problems with the designs etc.
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    I can easily compare the four boxers I have had, an two airheads, an oil head, and now a wet head.

    The airheads were probably the most troublesome, but I put over 200,000 miles on the first one so it is hard to blame it. In terms of issues/mile an R100RT was the worst, but that was more the fault of a previous owner. I think it had been abused. My 1999 RT was trouble free and my 2015 R is also so far.
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    Quote Originally Posted by brownie0486 View Post
    I was under the impression that bimmers referred to motors and beamers referred to caged. Is this distinction wrong?

    Defining reliable for me is "trouble free", with less recalls/problems with the designs etc.
    The other way around. Bimmers are cages, Beemers7Beamers have two wheels.

    http://www.boston-bmwcca.org/referen...er-beemer.aspx
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    Quote Originally Posted by BlueWaterCooled View Post
    The other way around. Bimmers are cages, Beemers7Beamers have two wheels.

    http://www.boston-bmwcca.org/referen...er-beemer.aspx
    Got it, leave it to me to get in backarswards

    And thanks for the info on your bikes models and experience sir, that's what I'm looking for. I'm leaning toward an r1200rt presently, but I'd like to know what others think of them and which years [ used ] had less issues/problems. I can't afford new.
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    Quote Originally Posted by brownie0486 View Post
    With the vast knowledge base here, I'd like to hear what the more seasoned members believe to be the most reliable, trouble free Bimmer overall, in their experience.

    Model, years etc. where there are LESS known issues, recalls etc...
    If you're wanting to stay within the boxer motor models, the later model R1200RS is on the sportier side of sport-touring. If you are willing to consider a non-boxer BMW, you might wish to look at a used F800GT. They seem to be one of the most reliable BMW models made. And for someone your size, they might fit you like a glove.

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    Thanks Chris
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    I'm stickin' with my R75/5 thanks. No major issues since it came out of the crate in '73.

    Bimmer, beemer, potato, patater.. .. . glad we got that straighten out.
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    Brownie, I'm 5'8"-5'9" with a 30" inseam and wear a 30" leg for my jeans, etc., so about the same as you with perhaps slightly shorter legs and longer torso.

    Anyway, I've always felt that is not just fit but comfort level as well. I'm fine with most bikes except off-road bikes with very high seats and the GSA. A regular GS or RT is fine for me if I have the seat in the lowest position, especially with a Sargent seat which is a little narrower at the very front so my feet reach the ground fine on my R|TW.

    For reliability and flexibility, I'd suggest that you consider late-model /7 Airhead bikes and then go all the way to the water-cooled Boxers. You'll have the least weight with the lowest center of gravity with those two extremes and with proper maintenance the /7 (like most other Beemers) will do 250,000+ without major issues "normally" (not everyone gets to have a normal experience and some bikes have issues). The early R1200 models didn't get sorted out until a few years into their production as was the case with early /7 models. Once you got closer to their final years all their issues had been resolved. However, the water-cooled Boxers seem to be very reliable from the beginning with the exception of a faulty batch of rear shocks on the early ones and some GS fork stancions.

    I've had a good number of bikes (ridden a lot of bikes) and still have several but for me, my 2014 R1200RT is the best and most versatile I've ever ridden and it's service intervals are great. Enjoy it every time I ride it. If I could only have one bike, it would be an RTW. Having said that, everyone is different, so YMMV. Good luck with the selection process.
    Regards, Alan - President BMWONS - MOA Charter Club #097, BMWMOA/BMWRA/BMWONS/Airheads
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    Thank you for that detailed post Alan, I like the rt's myself. I'll look into the 2014's and see what I can find
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    As for recalls, check out this list of recalls that have been accumulated:

    https://forums.bmwmoa.org/showthread...Recall-Notices
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    Quote Originally Posted by 20774 View Post
    As for recalls, check out this list of recalls that have been accumulated:

    https://forums.bmwmoa.org/showthread...Recall-Notices
    That's excellent, I bookmarked it, thanks
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