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    Moshe Levy's Facebook Posting - New R1250 GS & RT

    Moshe Levy posted an item on the BMW MOA Facebook section from a UK publication (MCN) today about the future of the GS & RT. Here is a link to the item: https://www.pressreader.com/uk/motor...84898070889745
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    A R1250RS with 150 HP would be great.
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    Look at the size of that top box
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    Quote Originally Posted by drneo66 View Post
    Look at the size of that top box
    That's probably a data collection box.
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    Another "spy report": http://www.motorcycle.com/features/2...er-engine.html

    Maybe the headlight change means we finally get LEDs?

    And what's that under the nose?
    Collision detection? Laser Cannon?
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    Quote Originally Posted by lkraus View Post
    Another "spy report": [URL="http://www.motorcycle.com/features/2019-bmw-r1200rt-spy-photos-new-boxer-engine.html"]http://www.motorcycle.com/features/2019-bmw-r1200rt-spy-photos-new-boxer-engine.html[/URL

    And what's that under the nose?
    Collision detection? Laser Cannon?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lee View Post
    A R1250RS with 150 HP would be great.
    I have a 94RS with 90 hp goes faster than I need and much faster than what deputy dan thinks I need to go
    Now if they could make it 90 lb lighter they would have something.

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    Maybe a dash cam? I could see wanting to collect video data on a test platform.

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    I find it interesting they are using the RT platform as a test mule. Maybe because the need to have and carry so much diagnostic and data gathering equipment?


    From all sources I have heard from, the GS was supposed to get this motor first. I wonder if that is still the plan?

    I am ok with my new 17.5 GS and while I would like to try this new bike I would not be willing to commit to it for a few years after it has been tested.

    I am not sure how I could use 150 HP when 125 HP sometimes scares me to death when I underestimate it.

    If anyone wants to see what this motor is really capable of hop on a GT with Endo Pro with ABS and everything else disabled ABS, DTC, Throttle control inputs from ride modes. It is just the motor and you. Wheelies and stoppies and anything else you are capable of, or not capable of, you can do and it is down right scary with no safety nets.

    Do not get me wrong if I live long enough I may try one out. I love me some V-Tec from my Honda car so VVT from BMW is going to be very exciting also. However as I age excitement is lower on my list of wants and my 17.5 GS has all I want or need.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 179212 View Post
    I have a 94RS with 90 hp goes faster than I need and much faster than what deputy dan thinks I need to go
    Now if they could make it 90 lb lighter they would have something.
    Quote Originally Posted by LFarling View Post
    I find it interesting they are using the RT platform as a test mule. Maybe because the need to have and carry so much diagnostic and data gathering equipment?


    From all sources I have heard from, the GS was supposed to get this motor first. I wonder if that is still the plan?

    I am ok with my new 17.5 GS and while I would like to try this new bike I would not be willing to commit to it for a few years after it has been tested.

    I am not sure how I could use 150 HP when 125 HP sometimes scares me to death when I underestimate it.

    If anyone wants to see what this motor is really capable of hop on a GT with Endo Pro with ABS and everything else disabled ABS, DTC, Throttle control inputs from ride modes. It is just the motor and you. Wheelies and stoppies and anything else you are capable of, or not capable of, you can do and it is down right scary with no safety nets.

    Do not get me wrong if I live long enough I may try one out. I love me some V-Tec from my Honda car so VVT from BMW is going to be very exciting also. However as I age excitement is lower on my list of wants and my 17.5 GS has all I want or need.
    I look at things like this announcement and all the excitement I read about getting 25 more horsepower...and I wonder. Actually, I just shake my head. It's like the "old" bike we had is now a piece of junk to be discarded on some unsuspecting fool. I mean, 25 hp is 25 hp.

    A little design work to make the bike weigh less would be great. And the only reason we can hope to control 150 hp...is that we have computer aids that actually dial back that marvelous hp to what we can control so we don't wreck the bike getting out of the dealer's parking lot. Take away the computer aids...and you can't begin to use 150 hp.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LFarling View Post
    I find it interesting they are using the RT platform as a test mule. Maybe because the need to have and carry so much diagnostic and data gathering equipment?


    From all sources I have heard from, the GS was supposed to get this motor first. I wonder if that is still the plan?
    I was surprised to see the RT picture also since the GS usually gets all the good stuff first.
    I guess the RT makes a better test mule because it hides most of the engine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by daboo View Post
    Take away the computer aids...and you can't begin to use 150 hp.
    It's pretty easy, just use your right wrist and brain.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lee View Post
    It's pretty easy, just use your right wrist and brain.
    With or without the ASC engaged?
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    The car ads are touting "the most horsepower in its class".
    I remember the "silly milimeter longer" ads
    Perhaps it's "specksmanship" run amok.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lee View Post
    It's pretty easy, just use your right wrist and brain.
    True that!

    This is one of my pet peeves, why would you ride differently if you had a 150 HP or 200 HP bike? My previous ride, an FJR had close to 150HP, monster torque, no traction control, no nanny electronics whatsoever. And I never crashed or got cited for speeding. Why would a 150 HP bike with full electronics rider aide complement scare you?

    When I hear someone say "If I had a 'Busa or a Panigale, I would lose my drivers license in minutes". Why? Does your brain switch off when you ride a sporty bike?
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