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    Hill assist. 2017 GSA

    Morning,
    I was final able to get my bike in for the front fork recall. As well, I pushed the dealership to update the software. Previously, I've had difficulties with the service department so I'm happy to get stuff done, albeit a few months late.

    Anyways, I've "heard" the GSA gets Hill Assist, but I'm not sure if that's a rumor or fact. From what I've read it comes on the 2018 for sure, but the 2017 needed the software update.

    If yes for 2017, I guess my software version doesn't have it enabled, or I don't know the proper combination if brakes, clutch lever and gear selections to activate it.

    If you aware, can you set me straight? Thank you

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    Registered User marcopolo's Avatar
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    My understanding is that, unless your bike was originally delivered with this option, you have to pay to have your bike retrofitted with Hill Start Control. The dealer has to obtain some sort of software unlock code from BMW, and that's, in part, what you're paying for. This is what it's called:

    K51 (R 1200 GS Adventure) R 1200 GS Adve. (0A02, 0A12) Retrofit Hill Start Control.

    It's p/n 77238536874, "Enabling code retrof.drive-off assistant". This should give you something to start with, when talking to your dealer.

    As to which models years are able to be retrofitted, I've heard tell of owners of 2014 GSAs having it done.
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    Run your VIN through one of the free decoders available on the internet, like http://www.bimmer.work/. That will tell you which options your bike was equipped with when it left the factory. If Hill Assist was included but following the directions in the manual does not work, an appointment with the dealer is in order.
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    My understanding is that hill assist is an option. If you do not have it, and if your bike is capable of having it, then it will cost you north of $200 to have a dealer activate it. It seems to be hit or miss as to whether the 2017s are hill assist capable. A dealer can tell you what your bike has. I have a 2017 GSA and I do not have it activated (and will not pay to do so), Annie has a 2017 GS and her bike has it activated.

    This video shows how to use it, although the bike is equipped with a TFT dash.

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    Here is how Hill Start Control is described on the BMW Motorrad (USA) website:

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    Quote Originally Posted by akbeemer View Post
    My understanding is that hill assist is an option. If you do not have it, and if your bike is capable of having it, then it will cost you north of $200 to have a dealer activate it.
    I can't remember the exact cost but when I checked with my dealer it was over $200 to activate Hill Start and over $500 for corning ABS.
    This was for 2016 R1200RS.
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    Dress for fall & avoid it AlanColes's Avatar
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    The video and BMW excerpt neglected to mention that:

    1) the system is also deactivated by turning off the ignition

    2) it is also useful for holding the bike on a downhill orientation as well

    3) it can be activated/deactivated with a firm application of either the front or *rear* brake
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    Quote Originally Posted by AlanColes View Post
    The video and BMW excerpt neglected to mention that:

    1) the system is also deactivated by turning off the ignition

    2) it is also useful for holding the bike on a downhill orientation as well

    3) it can be activated/deactivated with a firm application of either the front or *rear* brake
    In practice and on a steep incline it takes a more than the usual application of throttle and more slipping of the clutch to overcome the hold the system has on the bike. Before I learned to adapt, I'd killed the engine a few times.
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    I stalled it a couple of times as well while getting acquainted with it, and once last year when I got lazy.

    I find you don't really need to slip the clutch any more than for normal take-offs, if you simply adopt a moderately stronger / more aggressive launch - similar to taking away from a light briskly. You want more throttle but don't need to slip the clutch any more than for normal if get used to a brisk launch. YMMV
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    2) it is also useful for holding the bike on a downhill orientation as well
    So it does work on downhill stops as well...good to know. I find this even more valuable!
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    I had it on my RTW. I tried using it to help me start on a hill because it was there but pretty quickly decided I could do a better job "manually" than with automagic assistance. OTOH amazing how many times it turned out to be handy, just not for starting on a hill. For example, it's nice to engage it at a light - I could put both feet on the ground and fiddle with gloves or enter a destination or just rest both hands.

    I was kind of disappointed it couldn't be retrofitted to the '16 GSA but I figured I'd done fine without it before I bought the RTW, and I could tough it out again
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    I use it a lot just to hold the bike on any incline. I like to give a quick squeeze to the front brake to release it, then make a normal ride off with the clutch/throttle.

    When I stop on an incline (up or down) and plan to shut off the engine, I engage the HSC, put it in first, kill the engine (which releases the HSC) and release the clutch. No trauma...no drama. A good thing to have most of the time.
    John Gamel
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    VIN: WB10A0205HZ915151
    Type code: 0A02
    Model: R1200GS (EUR)
    E-F-R series: K51
    Series: R
    Type:
    Steering:
    Doors: 0
    Engine: A74
    Displacement: 1.20
    Power: 92 (125 hp)
    Drive: KAR
    Transmission: MECH
    Paint code: N1H - BLACKSTORM/SCHIEFERDUN
    Upholstery code: 2016-12-21
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    X5AC ABS PRO
    X186 SONDERMODELL II
    X191 DYNAMIC ESA
    X192 LED-SCHEINWERFER
    X193 KEYLESS RIDE
    Q200 SONDERMODELL TRIPLE BLACK
    X202 TAGFAHRLICHT
    X221 BORDCOMPUTER PRO
    X222 SA SCHALTASSISTENT PRO
    X224 FAHRMODI PRO
    Q230 KOMFORT-PAKET
    Q233 TOURING-PAKET
    Q235 DYNAMIK-PAKET
    X272 VORBEREITUNG NAVIGATIONSGERAET
    X350 Exhaust System, chromium-plated
    X377 Label roadside assistance
    X380 Operating instructions German
    X499 Lowering
    X519 Heated handlebar grips
    X530 RDC
    X538 Cruise control
    X562 Additional headlight
    X590 Direction indicator LED white
    X603 Alarm system

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