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    2016 R1200RT vs. 2017 R1200RT

    Does anyone want to break down the biggest difference between these two bikes? I have the 2016, and love everything about the bike but I really love that dark blue color they introduced in 2017. Besides the color, is there a practical reason to go from the 2016 to the 2017? My local dealer has quite a few 17ís in stock and Iím pretty sure I could get an okay deal on my trade and on the 2017.

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    Well right now BMW will give you a Nav 6, and 1.9% financing to buy a 17. Both good deals IMHO

    Big difference is transmission. You can do a search on the upgrade but it is big. Shaft, bearing, shifting forks, and anti shudder. So what does that mean to you?

    Well since I just traded a 15 RT for a 17 GS I can tell you it is one of the best shifting bikes and for sure the best shifting BMW I have ever ridden! I know you hear people say well it makes a difference but not a big difference. I call BS on that statement. It is night and day. Smooth easy shifts either with using the clutch or using SAP. I could never make SAP work 2-3 and 3-2 shifting on my 15 RT, it is butter on my GS. I wonder if people who make the statements have ridden or own a 17, or have had the software update done correctly. I can tell you unless I just got the perfect built bike by BMW shifting is night and day. Maybe my 15 RT just sucked? I do not know. I could get great shifts out of my 15 but I needed to think about it and "want" it to happen. On the 17 it just does.

    I guess you can tell I am impressed. I really was not looking to trade my 15 but after sitting on a 17 GS Low I fell in love.

    The Nav 6 has the best display of any GPS I have used over the years. 1.9% is not bad money for a loan on a bike. Not as good as I got on my Honda Accord at .9% but close enough.

    Not sure if there are any other changes bike wise on the RT. Of course with the BMW 1.9%, free Nav 6, and the sweet shifting transmission, you get your 3 year 36,000 warranty back with a new clock.


    Only down side is if you own a GS-911 you have to buy the adapter cable for the new ODB interface BMW had to put on to meet Euro 4 standards. Basically BMW had to use the ODBII pug instead of the round plug they used up to this point. So you need a 30 dollar cable to use a Wi-Fi GS-911.

    As long as you do not take a bath on your trade and are ok financially I see the 17 as a great deal.

    Of course I am a bit biased.
    Lee
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    My comments are below:

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    Quote Originally Posted by LFarling View Post
    Well right now BMW will give you a Nav 6,
    Looks like that offer is only for a GS and GSA.


    FOR A LIMITED TIME RECEIVE A BMW NAVIGATOR VI GPS.
    Now through February 28, 2018.

    The best way to get where you are going is with the Navigator VI. So for a limited time, youíll receive a free BMW Navigator VI GPS (part number: 77-52-8-355-998) when you purchase an incredibly versatile new 2017 R 1200 GS or R 1200 GS Adventure.

    *A $949 value, GPS mount and installation not included; no substitutions. Ask your salesperson for details. Offer valid until February 28, 2018.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pbryant018 View Post
    Does anyone want to break down the biggest difference between these two bikes? I have the 2016, and love everything about the bike but I really love that dark blue color they introduced in 2017. Besides the color, is there a practical reason to go from the 2016 to the 2017? My local dealer has quite a few 17’s in stock and I’m pretty sure I could get an okay deal on my trade and on the 2017.
    The important differences in the last 3 model years:

    MY17's got ABS PRO, and have the option of 1.9% APR, based on qualification.

    MY18's have:
    - more available colors, 5 in total including two Option 719 metallic colors that come from M series cars (+$1,700), and the Option 719 Seat on bikes with the special colors.
    - The important one... DTC, vs. ASC (a genuinely big difference) comes standard. With DTC standard, all of the LC Boxers now (finally) have the 'latest/greatest' ABS and traction control, utilizing bank angle sensors.

    If safety is a high priority, pass on the great interest rate and get a 2018... IMO, YMMV, etc...
    Greg North - Sales & Marketing Manager, BMW Motorcycles Of Charlotte & Greensboro
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    And then there are those of us for whom motorcycling is an essential part of our journey - a way of life, and looking at it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RYD1WD View Post
    - The important one... DTC, vs. ASC (a genuinely big difference) comes standard. With DTC standard, all of the LC Boxers now (finally) have the 'latest/greatest' ABS and traction control, utilizing bank angle sensors.

    If safety is a high priority, pass on the great interest rate and get a 2018... IMO, YMMV, etc...

    Looking at the BMW website shows corning ABS it's still an option as part of the Premium package.

    The 2017s on the dealer floor may have cornering ABS as a lot of bikes on the showroom floor are fully loaded.
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    Past BMW Bikes: 2011 K1300S, 2003 K1200RS, 1991 K75S, 1987 K75T, 1984 R100RT

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lee View Post
    Looking at the BMW website shows corning ABS it's still an option as part of the Premium package.

    The 2017s on the dealer floor may have cornering ABS as a lot of bikes on the showroom floor are fully loaded.
    My 17 has ABS Pro as it has the Premium Package.

    I thought the GPS was across the board and I also thought the 1.9% was also.

    On the GS you get two more drive modes with a plug that comes with it. The one mode allows full everything and no everything. Meaning you do full wheelies, stoppies, slides with the rear wheel locked, and no ABS, or any combo you about want. I will never run it so I took the plug back out.

    While the cornering ABS is cool, I anticipate using it as much as I did before I had it.

    Sorry for the bad information.

    Still the 17's transmission is to die for...........
    Lee
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    ABS PRO is not specifically attached to the premium package, it IS connected directly to RIDE MODES PRO though. I build MY RT's 3 different ways, even my most basic, or "essential build" as it's referred to in the shop, keeps all of the to the ground tech, including ABS PRO. Here's an example... the sheet doesn't specify ABS PRO, but you know it's there because it has the RIDE MODES PRO (excuse formatting loss):

    Model 18RT R 1200 RT US USD 18,395.00
    Color N1L Mars Red Metallic / Dark Slate Metallic N/C
    Upholstery N/C
    Options 233 Touring Package 1,400.00
    191 Dynamic ESA N/C
    272 GPS Preparation N/C
    518 Heated Seat N/C
    538 Cruise Control N/C
    238 Dynamic Package 325.00
    204 Hill Start Control N/C
    219 Headlight Pro N/C
    224 Ride Modes Pro N/C
    861 Style 1 600.00
    560 Windshield Sport N/C
    568 Black Engine N/C
    182 DTC (Dynamic Traction Control) N/C
    222 Gear Shift Assist Pro 475.00
    530 TPM (Tire Pressure Monitor) 250.00
    5AB Control Brake Light N/C
    Net Total 21,445.00
    Destination Charge 495.00
    Total Suggested Price 21,940.00
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