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    Don't be sorry Bob, be happy. ;-)

    These things all come with limitations and frustrations, along with their learning curves. Most of them get easier to use as we familiarize ourselves with them, some, even get relatively easy to use. ;-)
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    Has anyone used Tyre or Furkot (instead of BaseCamp) for route planning with a Navigator? If so, do you find it easier or more intuitive than BaseCamp?

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    I used Tyre quite a lot with smartphone apps, but although it is easy to use, it does not support Garmin shaping points. I find that shaping points are very useful to pin down the exact roads I want without having them "announced" in my headset.

    I used Furkot before and during my trip to the SLC rally last year and was really impressed. Furkot does support shaping points, and will automatically add shaping points to constrain the route. Usually it will do this in the background, but you can choose to see the points and edit them as you wish. I find the drag-n-drop route changes to be simpler than in Basecamp. Furkot is good for simple day rides but it really shines on long, multi-day trips for planning stops for attractions, gas, food and lodging.

    There are some good tutorials on YouTube. (This is why winter exists, so we can prepare for spring.) Also, there is a lengthy Furkot thread over at advrider.com. Furkot is still being developed, so some of the early posts about problems are probably irrelevant. I had to play with the Furkot interface for a while before I understood how it works, but now it seems pretty simple.

    You will want to save the Furkot routes to .gpx files "for newer Garmin devices". To be on the safe side I'll usually transfer to my route to the GPS, save it, and transfer back to my PC (usually in Basecamp) for review and possible editing. Most of the time, it's OK as-is, but occasionally the GPS recalculates and puts me on the U-turn merry-go-round.

    Edit: Just noticed your post count - Welcome to the forum!
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    I've only spent a little time with Tyre and Furkot and like Larry, I found Furkot to be the more useful. Unlike Larry, I've not gotten over the learning curve yet. May be getting too old and hit the old noggin too many times for me to get up to speed on this stuff as quickly as I'd like. Perhaps it should be a winter activity afterall.
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    I have a nav 6 will the furkot files transfer to the nav 6 directly or do I have to go to basecamp and then to the nav 6?

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    Quote Originally Posted by arrow View Post
    I have a nav 6 will the furkot files transfer to the nav 6 directly or do I have to go to basecamp and then to the nav 6?
    I'm not familiar with Furkot routes but all transfers to the NAV 6 needs to go thru Basecamp

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    Quote Originally Posted by strataj View Post
    I'm not familiar with Furkot routes but all transfers to the NAV 6 needs to go thru Basecamp

    Jay
    That's a change from the Nav V.
    On the Nav V all you need to do is copy a GPX file into the GPX folder in the Nav V.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lee View Post
    That's a change from the Nav V.
    On the Nav V all you need to do is copy a GPX file into the GPX folder in the Nav V.
    That is good to know, can you create GPX files other then Basecamp or mapsource? I know mapsorce didn't interface with my NAV V, since I like using it over basecamp I always open in basecamp to transfer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by strataj View Post
    I'm not familiar with Furkot routes but all transfers to the NAV 6 needs to go thru Basecamp

    Jay
    I believe you can transfer gpx files directly to a Nav VI. All you need is to copy the gpx to the GPX folder of the device.
    If you look closely at the video included in the following link from rever, you will see the transfer of the gpx file to a Nav VI.
    He then has to go to an extra step to convert from track to route because he created the gpx as a track in rever, not a route.

    http://help.rever.co/website-tips/do...armin-gps-unit
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    Quote Originally Posted by strataj View Post
    That is good to know, can you create GPX files other then Basecamp or mapsource? I know mapsorce didn't interface with my NAV V, since I like using it over basecamp I always open in basecamp to transfer.

    Jay
    There are many apps or websites that can create or save to the gpx file format. The gps should be able to read and interpret the file. However there might be discrepancies in the results if the app that created the gpx file uses a different map base than the one loaded in the gps. This is why I prefer to use basecamp to load the files.
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    Quote Originally Posted by patm View Post
    There are many apps or websites that can create or save to the gpx file format. The gps should be able to read and interpret the file. However there might be discrepancies in the results if the app that created the gpx file uses a different map base than the one loaded in the gps. This is why I prefer to use basecamp to load the files.
    I have found whenever I receive a route it's best to open in basecamp recalculate make sure (the route can change) its what you want then load to NAV. I agree the way it was created makes a difference including the map base and defaults such as all road type avoidances. The GPS should have alike set-up.

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    Thanks, I think I'm going to try the furkot because I really don't care for basecamp. I haven't worked with furkot yet but I do like some of the features I have seen in the tutorials.

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    Quote Originally Posted by patm View Post
    There are many apps or websites that can create or save to the gpx file format. The gps should be able to read and interpret the file. However there might be discrepancies in the results if the app that created the gpx file uses a different map base than the one loaded in the gps. This is why I prefer to use basecamp to load the files.
    Good point.
    Sometimes I have to go back and add more waypoint so the Nav V route matches the one on my computer.
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    I abandoned Base Camp and have been using FURKOT for over two years now. Web based trip planners are accessable anywhere on any device. I wish Garmin would do the same with system and map updates. And yes, you can transfer GPX files directly to the device via a usb cable. With the proper cable, you can do the same with your mobile phone. Like any web or software interface, FURKOT appears a little quirky at first glance but once you spend about ten minutes figuring it out, it (unlike Base Camp) stays with you.
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    Call me crazy, but I find Basecamp (for Mac) more intuitive, and easier to use than Furkot. I've tried Furkot a couple of times, but was never able to get into it. I did not find it intuitive at all, as much as I tried (not to say I'll never try it again).
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