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    09 K1300 GT safety switch

    Thank goodness these engines shutdown with a loss of oil pressure.
    Be careful of Nicked O rings is all I will say... even after a test ride with no issues.
    The next start up was apparently a gusher as evident by my trail of oil...
    All is good now....apparently all these newer bikes have a safety shutdown to protect the engine. I thought it was toast until talking with a mechanic.
    Last edited by roamingbeemer; 11-09-2017 at 02:15 AM.
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    This is on an oil filter, or ?

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    O ring for the cam tensioner. Was either bad or was nicked on installation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by roamingbeemer View Post
    Thank goodness these engines shutdown with a loss of oil pressure.
    Be careful of Nicked O rings is all I will say... even after a test ride with no issues.
    The next start up was apparently a gusher as evident by my trail of oil...
    All is good now....apparently all these newer bikes have a safety shutdown to protect the engine. I thought it was toast until talking with a mechanic.
    Never heard of of a switch shutting down the bike when it's low on oil.
    How much oil did you loose because of the nick in the cam chain tensioner o-ring?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lee View Post
    Never heard of of a switch shutting down the bike when it's low on oil.
    Me neither. Must have some sophistication other than low oil pressure otherwise the bike wouldn't start - due to low oil pressure. If it does in fact exist, perhaps it operates similar to the headlight; doesn't activate until the bike has started.

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    It was a gusher as evident by my trail. The remaining oil was Nil to none.
    The mechanics at the dealer were pretty confident in this knowledge of a shutdown feature and had other examples to back it up.
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    Not sure what would have happened if the final oil leaked out at 8000 rpm. All I can relay is what happened to me at idle when red lights came on and the bike almost immediately stopped running. I got to the shoulder and waited to get picked up.
    After finding the O ring problem they put fresh oil in and it fired right up without a hitch. They were very confident the bike had shut off as designed.

    Although they were mortified by what happened. No leaks during their test ride.
    Last edited by roamingbeemer; 11-10-2017 at 02:52 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by roamingbeemer View Post
    It was a gusher as evident by my trail. The remaining oil was Nil to none.
    The mechanics at the dealer were pretty confident in this knowledge of a shutdown feature and had other examples to back it up.
    Did this happen to be a multi-line dealership? I remember one mechanic swearing up and down to me that my K100 had a tip-over sensor that killed the engine at 30 degrees of bank.
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    Quote Originally Posted by roamingbeemer View Post
    All I can relay is what happened to me at idle when red lights came on and the bike almost immediately stopped running. .
    Make me wonder if the engine started to seize?
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    Quote Originally Posted by PGlaves View Post
    Did this happen to be a multi-line dealership? I remember one mechanic swearing up and down to me that my K100 had a tip-over sensor that killed the engine at 30 degrees of bank.
    No multi brand dealer. Long term BMW dealer with Mechanics going back to the 1100s. It certainly seemed to work the way they described with the bike shutting off immediately after the red oil pressure light came on. I would expect it to run a little longer before seizing (especially at idle)
    They talked about examples of R bikes losing all their oil after idling all day and they start right up after fixing the seals etc.
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    I will be monitoring oil consumption closely. It never used any oil so hopefully this remains true. If it starts to use oil I will know some damage occurred.
    I may send a sample for analysis when I do the next oil change.
    Very strange this occurred after the test ride by the mechanic. After I called back to the dealer they saw my trail of oil from where I started the bike to leave. They had to put oil dry down to absorb the oil.
    The service manager said he just followed my trail of oil to find me.
    They were horrified and I have never had so many apologises from everyone at the dealer in my life.
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    It has now been on multiple test rides at the dealer and the oil pan has been dropped to check for any metal. So far it appears okay. I will be getting good deals at this dealer for a long time.
    It will be interesting if this bike runs for years still. I had no plans to replace it. Good thing since telling a prospective buyer it had ran out of oil once may not lead to a productive conversation. If it starts to burn oil I will need to negotiate something because I would not sell the bike without full disclosure.

    The cam tensioner had stopped holding pressure so it was being replaced with the newer style to stop the chain rattle on start up.

    Preventative maintenance in this case may not have been worth it.

    In retrospect the mechanics were probably just telling me they have seen these bikes run okay after losing oil.
    Last edited by roamingbeemer; 11-10-2017 at 10:03 PM.
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