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    2016 RT now an oil leak! argh

    First warranty issue was a bad cruise control switch, then a tech broke a tab on a side panel, now I noticed an oil leak from the left side head gasket...a few drops a day. I have an appointment for the panel this Thursday, but probably they won't have time to address the leak. As the closest dealer is over an hour away, and we are losing "season" this could be a pain to deal with. I'm hoping that maybe the bolts just aren't torqued correctly, but it's still a pain. My question?? I don't have any, just venting. I won't make any build quality complaints from my one anecdotal R1200RT, but I really expected better than this- from the techs and the marque. To be fair, the dealer has been good about fixing, but I had to point out the broken tab and I re-routed the wires from the aftermarket brake lights they installed- they had them in such a way that when the 2 faced tape fails (yes it did twice) the light would fall between the wheel and the case- fortunately, I noticed it before damage done the first time- re routed- and saved the light the second time- as it would have been ripped out if I hadn't re-routed. now the light is tied with some parachute cord. OH another panel has a bad grommet, which I noticed, and they had to order it! (no grommets in stock?)

    I'm holding off mentioning the dealer for now, I'm not even sure if my bottom line is positive or negative!! I guess so far it's a wash- they deal with issues when pointed out, the purchase was pleasant enough, but they seem oblivious to poor workmanship. I do my own work on my other bikes, but the 3 year warranty on the BMW makes having them do maintenance seem advisable- especially with this leak and the ease with which tabs seem to break (I can break them as well as the next guy, that's why I haven't TOUCHED the panels!)

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    The bolts are torqued to 10 Nm. So you can have at that and see if it helps.

    If they did a 12K service they usually nail you for new gaskets at 140 bucks. Check your invoice and see if they did.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rick601 View Post
    First warranty issue was a bad cruise control switch, then a tech broke a tab on a side panel, now I noticed an oil leak from the left side head gasket...a few drops a day. I have an appointment for the panel this Thursday, but probably they won't have time to address the leak. As the closest dealer is over an hour away, and we are losing "season" this could be a pain to deal with. I'm hoping that maybe the bolts just aren't torqued correctly, but it's still a pain. My question?? I don't have any, just venting. I won't make any build quality complaints from my one anecdotal R1200RT, but I really expected better than this- from the techs and the marque. To be fair, the dealer has been good about fixing, but I had to point out the broken tab and I re-routed the wires from the aftermarket brake lights they installed- they had them in such a way that when the 2 faced tape fails (yes it did twice) the light would fall between the wheel and the case- fortunately, I noticed it before damage done the first time- re routed- and saved the light the second time- as it would have been ripped out if I hadn't re-routed. now the light is tied with some parachute cord. OH another panel has a bad grommet, which I noticed, and they had to order it! (no grommets in stock?)

    I'm holding off mentioning the dealer for now, I'm not even sure if my bottom line is positive or negative!! I guess so far it's a wash- they deal with issues when pointed out, the purchase was pleasant enough, but they seem oblivious to poor workmanship. I do my own work on my other bikes, but the 3 year warranty on the BMW makes having them do maintenance seem advisable- especially with this leak and the ease with which tabs seem to break (I can break them as well as the next guy, that's why I haven't TOUCHED the panels!)
    Wow...that sucks...I hope these are the only problems you'll have.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rick601 View Post
    I noticed an oil leak from the left side head gasket...a few drops a day. I have an appointment for the panel this Thursday, but probably they won't have time to address the leak.
    If you're talking about the valve cover gasket, it only takes a few minutes to remove the cover, wipe off the gasket and reinstall.
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    guys...thanks. I only have around 7K on it so they didn't do the 12K yet. AND make no mistake, I love the bike, it's been a dream to ride. The other issue with the dealer is...........................I can't stop buying "stuff" everytime I go LOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by LFarling View Post
    The bolts are torqued to 10 Nm. So you can have at that and see if it helps.

    If they did a 12K service they usually nail you for new gaskets at 140 bucks. Check your invoice and see if they did.
    Thanks, will do. as mentioned above, only recently did the 6K. Got the '16 at the beginning of this season.

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    Rick
    Be very glad you donít have a radial engine airplane, everything leaks
    I feel your pain though, iíve Had to quit visiting my dealer, always something new I canít live without!!
    Whatever you do donít go to one of the motorcycle shows, it is always costly😎
    Back to your leak, not uncommon, check torque on valve cover,look carefully at oil filter as that gasket has been known to leak. worst case remove the plug wire and valve cover, clean and reinstall with a little grease on gasket.

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    Could well be that the gasket is not seated properly. Happened to me. Easy to remove the cover, and re-seat it.
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    Rick's first sentence says HEAD gasket, not "valve cover" gasket... two very different items with very different fixes.

    Perhaps a little clarification from Rick would be in order.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pauls1150 View Post
    Rick's first sentence says HEAD gasket, not "valve cover" gasket... two very different items with very different fixes.

    Perhaps a little clarification from Rick would be in order.
    I was also wondering if it's a head gasket of valve cover gasket that's leaking.
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    Hopefully, it is just a valve-cover gasket leak.

    There have been a few R1200 LC heads that have warped very early in their service life and have been warranty repairs. I know f one R1200RS and have heard of a couple more. Doesn't appear to be a significant incidence (in terms of overall #'s - definitely significant for anyone it happens to), but thought you should know. If it is the head gasket, then call the dealership and ask them if it is okay to ride it there or if BMW will have it picked up. You can never be too careful when dealing with a potential warranty claim, make sure you keep the dealership informed of everything in advance and follow their directions - that removes you from responsibility as much as possible.
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    clarification! VC gasket

    Quote Originally Posted by AlanColes View Post
    Hopefully, it is just a valve-cover gasket leak.

    There have been a few R1200 LC heads that have warped very early in their service life and have been warranty repairs. I know f one R1200RS and have heard of a couple more. Doesn't appear to be a significant incidence (in terms of overall #'s - definitely significant for anyone it happens to), but thought you should know. If it is the head gasket, then call the dealership and ask them if it is okay to ride it there or if BMW will have it picked up. You can never be too careful when dealing with a potential warranty claim, make sure you keep the dealership informed of everything in advance and follow their directions - that removes you from responsibility as much as possible.
    close look...bottom of valve cover appears to be from the gasket. I would LOVE to do it myself, really, but as I'm going to the dealer Thursday anyway and the leak is slow enough AND (most importantly) dealer said OK to ride it in, and they know I'm an hour plus away. My only reason not to get into it is that I want to keep the warrenty safe for anything down the road. Dealer has been good about claims, so I don't anticipate any issues. The oil level is good, and I'll stop several times to make sure (sight glass as well as monitor read out). After all the useful help herer, I really am sorry not to do it myself- I intend to have this bike a long time, so down the road I'm sure I'll get my wish...and then some!

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    Quote Originally Posted by rick601 View Post
    close look...bottom of valve cover appears to be from the gasket. I would LOVE to do it myself, really, but as I'm going to the dealer Thursday anyway and the leak is slow enough AND (most importantly) dealer said OK to ride it in, and they know I'm an hour plus away. My only reason not to get into it is that I want to keep the warrenty safe for anything down the road. Dealer has been good about claims, so I don't anticipate any issues. The oil level is good, and I'll stop several times to make sure (sight glass as well as monitor read out). After all the useful help herer, I really am sorry not to do it myself- I intend to have this bike a long time, so down the road I'm sure I'll get my wish...and then some!
    No need to apologize for not doing it yourself; I do almost no maintenance on mine. Just wanted to point out that, if it's simply a mis-aligned valve cover gasket, it's a very quick -- and easy -- fix (especially for a dealer).
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    Good to hear it's just the valve cover gasket and it should be a quick fix at the dealer.
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    +1

    Valve cover gasket is the "best" thing that it could be, although the other possibility is very rare, glad to hear it is the gasket.

    If you're like me the RTW is as others have said, the best and most versatile pavement bike I've ridden. It just does most everything I want in the manner that I like. Some don't like the engine sounds/vibrations or the gearbox sounds/feel, etc., but to me those are actually endearing qualities. I've owned and ridden quite a few bikes and a Boxer RTW (or it's offspring) will likely be with me as long as I'm riding.

    Good luck with the dealer, nice to hear you've got a good relationship. Happy and safe riding.
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